Bill's House O Insomnia - All Comments

re: Stuff White People Like - The Book - On Sale Tomorrow

William — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 23:30:44 GMT

WTF - that's really insightful. So white poeple only like white people? I wasn't aware of that but thanks for enlightening me.

re: Stuff White People Like - The Book - On Sale Tomorrow

WTF — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:01:49 GMT

Why write a full book? I can sum it up in 2 words. White people like, "white people"

re: My first hours with my Amazon Kindle

Sahil Malik — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:09:13 GMT

Bill - if an ebook reader started doing a good job reading PDFs, I'd be all over it in a second!

Kindle doesn't do that.

re: God I hate Ajax

William — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:06:13 GMT

@McNaz - It's not just the browser - b/c it doesn't just happen with IE... firefox, opera both have the same Ajax issue on the pages I'm talking about.

re: God I hate Ajax

William — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:03:55 GMT

@Grant - I don't hate the technology - although that's the title - I thought I made it clear. I agree with you completely - my whole point is that in the current incarnation, more implementations suck than are good - well , more precisely, the ones that suck are way worse than the ones that don't are good.

no disagreement witcha man - it's all about the implementation

re: God I hate Ajax

William — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:02:09 GMT

@Wow - with all due respect man, if you reread what I said, I use many browsers. I think it's pretty clear that I don't think AJAX itself is evil or bad - and that as a technology, I think it's good. I agree 1000000% that there's too many bubble gummers writing code and that it's the implementations that are screwed up.

With that said, there's currently too much overuse and mistaken use. The problem isn't Ajax per se, but what people are doing with it. But like I said, I remember when people used to obsess over load times and compatibility - now it's like everything has changed to simply "Do we do it with Ajax"... and the implications suck.

To me it's a lot like Heroin - in and of itself, it's a great analgesic and has tremendous upside potential. But in practice, many that use it destroy their lives with it or at least really screw up their lives for a period of time - that's pretty much how I see Ajax. The solution isn't to eliminate opiates, it's for people to use them more wisely - the same holds for Ajax. I however, won't be holding my breath.

re: God I hate Ajax

wow.... — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:42:00 GMT

I read this article soley for the title and usually dzone has some good authors. Than I noticed your tagcloud -- silverlight, .net, c#, etc. etc. etc. You start off the article with you admitting to using IE7! What you are experiencing is not the fault off a technology but the fault of every idiot and their mother thinking that (s)he should be a programmer -- would you all please just get the *** off the net and leave the real programmers to do their jobs!? Please!? I know computers are popular now but *** -- take your non-coding asses and GTFO! Ajax as the technology it is -- background http requests is one of the better things that could have ever happened to the net.

re: God I hate Ajax

James — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:12:55 GMT

<i>Don't hate the technology, hate the implementation of that technology. </i>

Grant,

I must object. Don't hate the playa. Hate the game. Developers aren't in control of the things being asked of them. Performance is only a concern after everything crashes. Before that, management asks for feature they have seen on every other site, and, building up their in-house cred, developers generally comply -- usually by grabbing the tools most readily available, such as the ACT.

Changing the game probably means going to Silverlight and putting out to pasture the developers who won't jump on the band wagon. Then, perhaps two or three iterations later, we'll be having the same conversation about Silverlight's short comings.

On the other hand, it will be fun in a few years when we will be able to look down our noses at AJAX sites and comment on their 'old school' style.

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re: God I hate Ajax

McNaz — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:10:04 GMT

Sounds like IE is your problem here.

re: God I hate Ajax

KoW — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:36:27 GMT

shhhht, AJAX's not turned southwards on the hype cycle yet. Wait for another 3 months with that ok?

re: God I hate Ajax

Grant — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 04:53:30 GMT

Don't hate the technology, hate the implementation of that technology. Ajax has it's place, and it also doesn't. But it's really down to the web developer/designer to choose when to use it and what kind of experience it creates.

Personally, the Ajax Control Toolkit was making my site so slow and crap, i have removed it completely from my new site currently in development.

re: God I hate Ajax

DURON — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:13:33 GMT

I have the same feelings about AJAX, too. I'm using Firefox, and it freezes up like mad when opening a few AJAX running tabs. No wonder web developers are switching to SilverLight for better overall performance.

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re: God I hate Ajax

William — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:19:58 GMT

Rod:

Yah, I should be more careful, there's no doubt. I just had another crash this morning - on a totally different machine than where I had the one last night - although it's the same page so that has something to do with it (everything probably). The main thing is mobile browsing - I get crashes there constantly - rather, the Script running too long warning - which pretty much freezes the screen for 15 seconds before you can even hit Cancel on the warning box.

Do you do any mobile browsing? If so, do you have any troubles?

re: God I hate Ajax

William — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:18:12 GMT

Craig:

Do you browse on a mobile device often? If so, I'd be interested in hearing if you've had any performance problems. I've used several different phones and it's pretty consistent with respect to where i have my problems.

I honestly don't think it's either bandwidth or hardware - it's pretty consistent and with one exception, my hardware and pipe are pretty intense.

Just this morning when i was approving these comments - it's a dual core pentium with 4gb of ram - it took about 4 seconds each once I hit the button to Approve. I know I'm pretty impatient but it's the frequent crashes that irk me. On a few sites I can cause the problem consistently on different machines so I'm not sure what the deal is.

re: God I hate Ajax

Craig — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 07:19:52 GMT

I agree some sites overdo the Ajax, but on the whole I rarely experience the problems you do. I think the problems are combination of slow broadband and slow computer.

re: God I hate Ajax

Rod Trent — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 03:27:56 GMT

Sorry to hear about your browser crashing woes. I bought a new laptop recently and have been very careful about what I put on it.

I've not had one single browser crash.

Oh, and I don't use Gmail. I may have used it a total of 5 minutes since Google stuck it in the never-ending beta cycle. Don't feed the monster.

re: My first hours with my Amazon Kindle

Brian H. Madsen — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:46:38 GMT

I've actually considered getting myself one of these...i read too much and programming books are generally half a tome so dragging it around is just plain suicide!

only concern i've come up with so far is this - WILL IT WORK IN AUSTRALIA OR IS THERE SOME MORONIC LAW IN PLACE THAT STOPS THEM GOING TO MARKET HERE!!!????

still waiting for the Zune Marketplace to get it's act together and spread its love to australia as well!!

re: My first hours with my Amazon Kindle

William — Sat, 07 Jun 2008 02:20:49 GMT

Yah Yah Yah... stooped my A55. As far as ebooks go, the Tablet has years to go before it'll be anywhere near as cool as a Kindle, and I'm a Tablet lover.

Do you seriously dislike them or is this just a continuation of our perennial gadget battles ;-)