New Reading list (non-Tech)

Published Sun, Oct 23 2005 17:53 | William

I picked up The Unknown Mao  by Jung Chang and Jon Holiday.  It's been fluctuating in the Amazon top 10 for a while and I recently grabbed a copy.  So far, i got through the first 10 chapters.  It's a pretty heavy read weighing in at around 800 pages and pretty much looks like one of those books that you dreaded reading in college because it was so big.  Fortunately the chapters are small so you can easily knock out a chapter at a time in 20 minutes or less.

So why am I mentioning it?  Well, b/c Mao gets pretty good press in most circles over here and he's pretty much an amazing dude.  Amazing in the most repugnant sense of the word.  Mike Tyson for instance has a Mao tatoo.  I've seen almost as many Mao shirts in college as I have Che Guevera shirts and both of them, from most of what I've heard , are regarded as Freedom fighters more than anything else. 

Since I've been alive, every time some politician does something unpopular on the left or right, out  comes the Hitler analogies.  Well, either Hitler or Nazi analogies, a difference without distinction.  Anyway, if I was related to Hitler, I'd be calling up John Edwards or some other Trial Lawyer and suing the living crap out of everyone. For instance, during the 20th century, Europe did a pretty good job at trying to wipe out a good segment of the population.  But compared to ol Mao, they were total bums.   Why?  Well, because as much of a monster as Hitler was, he was a total piker compared to Stalin, who was in turn a total piker compared to Mao.  Granted, I haven't read the whole book so I'm not going to say too much... but from what I can see, the authors don't have an ax to grind.  At least if they do, they are subtle enough about it that they keep it to themselves and let the footnotes speak for themselves.  Depending on how you want to count, Mao killed between 80 million and 100 million people.  Yes, you have to consider starvation a method of killing people but 80 million is no joke.  But that's not really the crux of the book. I starts out in the late 1800s with Mao and his mom and pop.  From what the authors describe, old boy had an Oedipus complex that would in and of itself, convince msot folks that Freud had something right in this regard.  It moves on through his early education, then his becomming a communist, then him hooking up with Stalin and then, well, i didn't read that far yet.  But man was he one sick puppy. In a nutshell, Mao was the living carnation of the NY Times characterization's of GW.  With 100 million dead under his belt, I can't even imagine what the American Friends Service Committee would be saying if Mao was a religous republican instead of a Marxist. 

Anyway, if you're interested in a pretty good non-tech read, this is as good as anything else I've come across.

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# William said on October 24, 2005 9:30 AM:

yo...

before you read this, you should have read jung chang's first book "Wild Swans"... it's a fucking fantastic book, and she really details how mao and his regime have personally affected her and her family (especially her parents)...

Also, you might want to see the chinese film "To Live" - it's one of the best fucking films ever made, period. despite the fact that the movie is about the life and times of a single family living in china during the 20th century, it vividly brings to life the history and events in china during mao's regime... from the victory of the communists over chiang-kai shek, to the cultural revolution, and the great leap forward and red guards. also gong-li (who is just about the hottest fucking female ever) is in it, so if that isn't reason enough, you might as well go and fucking shoot yourself...

it's a been awhile, what's new?

# William said on October 31, 2005 7:21 AM:

Bill, Jung Chang's book is popular history written by a gal with an axe to grind.

Mao, unlike Hitler, did not from the beginning target a group of people. During the period of the Long March he was quite fair to landlords and peasants, indeed much more so than Chiang Kai Shek.

Upon seizing power Mao stated that there would be a place for both intellectuals and small business people in his society.

However, because of his foolish central planning, the situation got out of control in the famine year of 1960. Note that the Beijing leadership itself was affected by shortages during this famine.

Jung Chang, I am afraid, uses fuzzy math to come up with her numbers. Because Hitler stated his programme of elimination in Mein Kampf and confirmed this through his direct representative Reynhardt Heydrich at the Wansee conference of 1942, Hitler was uniquely responsible for mass murder in a way neither Stalin nor Mao was, since most of the murders occured by proxy and with the willing participation (as Chang shows in her book) of local Party leaders and others settling personal vendettas.

Mao was also responsible, like it or not, for the creation of modern China and the reversal of the "century of humiliation" in which chaos under a series of weak emperors had threatened China's existence.

One of the programmers I worked with in Shenzen regarded Mao as an inspiring figure and memorized his poetry. This is sad because I agree that many people lost their lives under Mao's rule.

At the same time, were it not for Mao, he would not be a programmer today but AT BEST a servant of some Westerner in some concession.

The end does NOT justify the means. You CAN make an omelette without breaking eggs. At the same time, China was in chaos until 1949 and ordinary people were addicted to opium and starved in famine by the Japanese, the British and even by elements of the Guomindang.

The Mao years gave large numbers of Chinese a shot at merely living another day because Mao closed China's doors to foreigners and reopened them only when China was prepared to deal with the west as an equal.

For this reason the Chinese regard Mao as a son of a bitch with however the Mandate of Heaven and they put up with his successors. There is no democracy but my coworkers had a shot at a decent life.

The PERVERSION of democracy in the US, with manufactured WMDs, should make us skeptical of black and white thinking.

I conclude that it's altogether too easy to write, from a biased point of view, a book that condemns a genuinely popular leader like Mao or Chavez and blames him for EVERYTHING that goes wrong, because this is tutelage in accepting SOBs who don't pretend to be popular leaders.

I suggest at this point that you read a more unbiased and scholarly book such as THE RISE OF MODERN CHINA to get a deeper understanding of China.

We're always hearing about what SOBs left leaders are. Keep in mind that big money determines what we hear.

For example, I met two programmers at Visual Studio 2002 from a Venezuelan oil company. Despite the fact that the managers of this firm were in favor of Chavez' overthrow, the programmers were supporters of Chavez, because they came from the 80% of people who don't have a shot unless they learn Visual Basic...and sometimes not even then.

# William said on November 7, 2005 5:01 PM:

edward - I actually was hoping you'd chime in on this. I wanted a recommendation on another book and figured you'd be the one to ask. I figured there was a slight ax to grind on the book - but it's subtle for most of it. I got 1/4 way through the book thinking Mao was pretty cool, but like anyone, I think power got to him a little. I didn't realize he scored as much a33 as he did either. Clinton and Gary Heart together couldn't pull poon like Mao did ;-). Ok, too much Beavis and Butthead digresssion on my part.

I definitely will pick up a copy of THE RISE OF MODERN CHINA - the more I read the more fascinated I get with the subject.

# William said on November 7, 2005 5:01 PM:

Phil - where the hell have you been man ;-)

# William said on November 15, 2005 5:12 AM:

Hey, Bill, how is it hanging.

I applaud your decision to work out.

I am teaching English and computer topics at a private enrichment school in Hong Kong and lovin' it even though it means I might technically get out of date.

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