A Really Great Job Offer if you're interested.

Published Fri, Jun 17 2005 11:28 | William

Ok, I know this is SPAM and I don't want to turn this into a debate about Offshoring or H1B's - I've pissed enough people off by saying that I think legal immigration is good for the industry and that there's something really hypocritical about a country that makes it VERY easy for one set of people to come in here illegally (or undocumentedly) while we make it next to impossible for another group.  I have too many friends from India that were EXPLOITED, and I Mean EXPLOITED, by the guys holding their H1Bs.  When I say exploited, I don't mean Exploited as in the Electronic Arts allegations. I mean exploited like Making them come over and clean their houses, be bartenders at parties, viciously insult their spouses in front of people at parties and stuff like that.  But out immigration system breeds that b/c the folks holding the visas have tremendous control over the people with the visa. And there are definitely some that pull stuff like “Well, I knwo you spent all the money you had to bring you and your family here and I know it would be devastating for you to go back to India after you spent all this money, but you can either clean my car, or pack your bags).  Suffice to say that this is a serious subject and people tend to get mad about it - and I can certainly understand why.  Thanks to legal immigration, the US has gotten  Sahil 'El Maliko' Malik and so many other wonderful folks that I personally, can only be 100% supportive of it, I just wish it was easier for folks like them to come over.

But this post was intended to be filed under Humor and I don't want it turning serious.  I got this email this morning:

Hi,
 
We are an India Based Limited Organization and doing business with U.S and European clients since last over 5 years successfully. The main areas of activities are :
 
1) VB.net/ ASP.net/ C#.net/ DotNet based development.
2) PHP/ MySQL based development.
3) JSP/ Servlets/ Java programming using the J2EE model
4) Graphic Art & Designing
5) Pre/ post sales web/email based customer support (Including Technical Support)
 
We can send you a brief powerpoint presentation to show our Technical Capabilities and about all of our product portfolio(s). At this time we are charging US$7/Manhour from our existing buyers who have hired people in various departments here and we have fully organized daily reporting system directly from the hired engineers/designers.
 
Do let us know, if this is of interest to you OR may you require further information.
 
Regards,
Quantum Coders Limited.

P.S. This is a promotional mail and if you find this mail unsolicited, please inform us at remove@qclnet.com and we will take care that you do not receive any further promotional mail.

And this is dead serious. They even have a decent web site.  $7.00/hr.  Now, I'm as much of a free market nut as anyone. I HATE minimum wage, Unions and all that crap.  But $7.00/hr for a .NET Developer.  Ouch.

 

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# William said on June 17, 2005 11:39 AM:

got it too. sad

# William said on June 17, 2005 3:33 PM:

Holy crap. Did you happen to see their address?

Quantum Coders,
70 Jerusalem Avenue,
Hicksville NY 11801
1-516-681-1041

Jerusalem ave in Hicksville?

# William said on June 17, 2005 4:32 PM:

http://www.qclnet.com/v1/healthIndustries.php#Next

Tiberius Erectus

# William said on June 17, 2005 4:54 PM:

Dude, they are charging 7$ an hour, how much are they paying their consultants? Don't you just love the royal treatment these H1b pimps give?

# William said on June 18, 2005 2:05 AM:

Quantum are looking for Senior Programmer (DotNet & PHP) (Code : SP) at http://www.qclnet.com/v1/careers.php

More Interesting: "Senior" position needs only Experience in web based application development and Exposure to database like MSSQL/MYSQL. ???

Quantum are charging 7$ an hour, What's salary for Senior Programmer?

# William said on June 18, 2005 3:06 PM:

Thanks to you for all your comments great. We programming do and other work. Many MVPs we ask and work to come here to us. We pay $7.50 to MVPs, so go to the phone.

We demonstrate us at TechEd. Quantum booth was by the Porta-Potties in the South Parking Lot.

We also are do some in our very best much programming. So try us a give!!!

replacSsnoitpo

# William said on June 18, 2005 3:55 PM:

Q: How much is a .Net coder worth?
A: Depends on whether or not you have his H1B.

It's d@mn near legalized slavery.

# William said on June 19, 2005 7:51 PM:

If we were to find huge deposits of oil in Canada and could buy them at $15/barrel, would anyone complain? The consumers would not as they would be purchasing gasoline below $1.00/gallon again. Canada wouldn't complain because they are making money off of their newly found resource. However, OPEC may be a bit miffed because a resource they once considered valuable would now sell for half of what they were previously getting for it. Why are jobs any different? Our socialist laws (minimum wage, etc) have protected us for so long, but also caused an inflation to labor costs. Is it any wonder that manufacturing starded outsourcing labor to our "friends" to the south? As creative as we American's are, we moved our expertise into the areas that didn't involve working on assembly lines. We thought that this specialized type of process we engaged in could not be outsourced -- after all, this is a skilled type of work isn't it? Nope. As development tools have improved and more great documentation on software development process has been produced, the process has become somewhat rudamentary and nearly assembly-line style. So we, as clever little Americans have decided that we'll just move into jobs like architecture and business process improvement. After all, these are specialized skills and cannot be produced by just anyone, can they? Architecture will be gone in the next 10 years as an "absolute safe haven". How do I come up with that conclusion? Do you remember in the mid 90's ? Every one and their brother that knew how to use FrontPage called themselves a programmer? Why did they do this? Its where the money was -- and putting "programmer" on your resume at least got you an opportunity. The same thing happens now. Everyone and their brother that has ever seen an IDE or thumbed through a UML book is calling themselves an architect. I saw a resume the other day from someone fresh out of college that said they "architected a solution" when they really just meant they helped do some design. But the first sign that a job will go the way of the US steel worker is that everyone and their brother claims to be able to do it. Those people claim they can do the job and do it well(*cough*charlescaroll*cough*) and ask for high-dollar figures when they really cannot put program one out the door. The trick is for the good developer to stay one step ahead of everything. Watch what the next hot thing is and stay on that fringe. Charge the high-dollar figures to help them in those skills because, well, there isn't a sea of candidates capable of filling the position. Then when that tidal wave of posers shows up behind you again, go back to the evalation of the next hot thing and do it again. Don't let yourself get caught looking at the pretty lights along the way or you'll be enveloped by the next wave of corporate-sponsored economic-terrorism otherwise known as off-shoring.

# William said on June 21, 2005 8:40 AM:

Yes, I get it regulary - I guess I am an subscribre :-)

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