Me.dium and TRUSTe have a falling out...

The falling out between TRUSTe and Me.dium was brought to my attention by an associate because I have a Me.dium widget on my blog.

My immediate reaction was "Oh no, surely Me.dium has not turned bad - if they have I'll have to remove their widget from my blog and IE-VISTA, and I'll have to make some sort of statement about what has happened because many people have installed Me.dium via my blog, and I'll have to alert Microsoft because I have recommended Me.dium in one of my articles". 

The fact that my associate felt it necessary to write to me brings me to the conclusion that I should acknowledge the incident and write about my thoughts on the matter, especially when there's a good chance that some will say "Sandi recommended badware... look what TRUSTe says a program that Sandi recommends and likes".

My associate referred me to TRUSTe's blog, and sure enough, TRUSTe reported on 2 April via a blog post titled "Me.Dium First Participant to be Terminated from TDP" that:

"Me.Dium decided, without notifying TRUSTe, to remove the screen that served as the Primary Notice for their browser add-on. TRUSTe’s ongoing monitoring discovered the omission. After many attempts [to] contact the company, including placing the software on Suspension and removing it from the whitelist, TRUSTe had no choice but to terminate."

The above statement is strongly worded and in combination with the article title makes Me.dium look very bad.  I immediately started writing a "what the hell is going on" email to my contacts at Me.dium, but then decided that it might be a good idea to check out the Me.dium blog before I sent the email.

I found this entry at the Me.dium blog entitled "Just the facts ma'am" dated 3 April 2008 and penned by David, one of the founders of Me.dium in which David says, amongst many other things, that:

"On November 29th of 2007, we officially informed TRUSTe that we were withdrawing from their program.  We truly tried, but it just wasn’t going to work for us."

and, importantly:

"We removed ourselves from the program in November of 07 via email notice that was acknowledged by TRUSTe."

I have no reason to disbelieve Me.dium's statement that they withdrew from the TRUSTe program in November 2007 **and that their withdrawal was acknowledged by TRUSTe**.  Me.dium's interactions with me have always been transparent, and above board, and they have always been frank and open in their dealings with me.  In short, I trust that they are telling the truth.

I also have to believe that the author of the TRUSTe article believed that he/she was telling the truth.  Therefore, I can only assume that there has been a basic breakdown in communication and/or procedure within the confines of TRUSTe itself. 

I can only assume that whoever it was at TRUSTe that "acknowledged" the email from Me.dium whereby Me.dium withdrew from the program did not bother to pass the information on, or if it was passed on, it wasn't passed on to the right people, or enough people, or the correspondence fell into a bit bucket somewhere.

That being said, TRUSTe are not 100% at fault.   Me.dium should have responded to TRUSTe's later attempts to contact them, even if only to say "go away, we left the program back in November".

Several days have passed since TRUSTe's 2 April entry and Me.dium's indignant response on 3 April.   I do not know if TRUSTe and Me.dium have corresponded since the articles went live or if they have sorted out the misunderstandings.  If they have, nobody is talking in public as far as I can see.

Sorry guys but Me.dium and TRUSTe (especially TRUSTe) need to bring this sorry tale to a public conclusion.  Me.dium's reputation has taken a negative hit because of the TRUSTe blog announcement.  TRUSTe's reputation has taken a negative hit because of Me.dium's indignant response.  As it stands, we have conflicting public statements by two different companies and we, the reader, are left having to decide who we are going to believe.  As for me, I'm going to keep the Me.dium widget on my blog and on IE-VISTA, and trust that my faith is not misplaced and that Me.dium are telling the truth when they say that they withdrew from TRUSTe's program in November and that, most importantly, TRUSTe acknowledged that withdrawal. 

If what Me.dium says is the truth, then Me.dium were not obliged to inform TRUSTe of any changes to the Me.dium product, and TRUSTe were wrong to publicly state that Me.dium had been terminated from a program that Me.dium had withdrawn from 4 months earlier.

As for TRUSTe's criticism that "There is no notice that tells consumers that the browser add-on actually monitors their browsing in order provide recommendations of other sites they might find interesting", I have to ask, do we need to give notice about a functionality that is the primary purpose of the software being downloaded?  Me.dium users download the product *because* it monitors their Web browsing and shares it with other Me.dium users.  That is how the Me.dium map is generated in the first place. And the Friends tab that shows you which web page your friend is visiting and gives you the ability to jump to it with just a mouse click.  And the Most Popular and Top 10 site lists.  Such information, information that is displayed to each and every user of Me.dium, is not something that Me.dium picks up via some sort of mysterious osmosis. 

In short, there is an important difference between, in the first instance, monitoring that is in-your-face and interactive, and the primary purpose of the software being downloaded, and, in the second instance, monitoring that is behind the scenes, is *not* the basis of the primary functionality of the software, and which the end user can not see.   The second instance must be disclosed.  The first instance is "stating the obvious".

Published Monday, April 07, 2008 12:40 AM by sandi
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Comments

# re: Me.dium and TRUSTe have a falling out...

Hey Sandi,

Yeah, it's been a fun couple of days!  ;)

I'd really like to thank you for giving Me.dium the benefit of the doubt here as well as all of your support form the start.

I have spoken with TRUSTe since their posting and it was a very bad case of miscommunications.  Without boring you with all the gory details, Me.dium truly believed we were no longer part of the program and acted accordingly.  TRUSTe thought we were and acted accordingly.  Let's just say I need to come up with another email address if I'm gong to post mine on our website so I'm not getting between 500 and 700 junk mails a day - and important ones don't get lost.

While I'm still a bit frustrated that they chose such a public forum for their announcement, what really matters is that both organizations believe in the same goal - clarity, control and value for the users.

The partnership was not the right fit at this point in the game, but we have spoken since and have a clearer understanding of the miscommunications involved.

I"ll update the blog as appropriate and encourage anyone that has questions regarding the issue to contact me directly at david at me dot dium dot com.  ;)

blogme.dium.com/.../just-the-facts-maam

Thanks again.

Sunday, April 06, 2008 12:42 PM by David

# re: Me.dium and TRUSTe have a falling out...

Hi David,

TRUSTe also need to step up to the plate and make it clear that there was a miscommunication.

People who read *my* blog will understand that, and people who read the Me.dium blog will understand that, but those who read the TRUSTe blog won't.

It is important to note that there is no link to the Me.dium blog visible on the Me.dium home page unless and until the person logs in to the site with a Me.dium user name and password.  The casual visitor wanting to check out Me.dium after see's TRUSTe's blog will not see that there is a blog to visit.

Sandi

Sunday, April 06, 2008 5:25 PM by sandi

# re: Me.dium and TRUSTe have a falling out...

Hi there Sandi and David --

I've posted a general response on the medium blog (through David's link above).  There's a bunch of ground to cover here, but I'll try to keep it focussed.  And let me also be clear -- I don't want this to descend into a he said - she said.  The fact of the matter is that medium makes cool software, and we generally hold the folks that run the company in very high regard.

A few responses:

- the confusion about the termination: there was no process breakdown at TRUSTe (what an odd assumption); at one point medium expressed that they MAY not want to continue; we immediately held a call to understand the issues; the call ended with a mutually expressed desire to maintain certification and work together creatively to resolve the compliance issue; that's hardly a termination of a formal contract

- the process breakdown came when we attempted to followup with medium over the ensuing months through every communication channel we had on record (phone, email, postal mail)

- on prior notice for tracking functionality: you raise an interesting point (re: the merits of notice in this context) -- one that we've debated in the advisory committee and at the staff level; but the fact of the matter is that we certify everyone against the same public standards (truste.org/.../Trusted_Download_Certification_Agreement.pdf),and those standards right now say that consumers aught to have prior notice if their behavior online will be collected and sent onward.  Many folks have applauded that standard and regard it as an important privacy safeguard.  This isn't a popularity contest ... we can't exclude medium from this requirement because we think they are a neat company run by good guys (and gals).

Again, I'm hoping this blows over.  We take our program requirements seriously.  I know that medium takes the interests of their users seriously.  It's clear that we had a communication breakdown; one that was only resolved when we spoke about it publicly.  And the shame is that there is plenty of overlap between our views of how things should be.

We'll get there ... even if its by probing in the dark with a pitchfork from time to time ...

Tuesday, April 08, 2008 12:07 AM by Colin O'Malley

# re: Me.dium and TRUSTe have a falling out...

I've got to admit that this is no big surprise to me. I've often attempted to get an answer from someone at Me.dium to support questions, etc and have waited days or even weeks for a cookie cutter one sentence response. It seems like there is more focus on developing a product that actually listening and/or communicating with the public over there.

Friday, April 18, 2008 11:05 AM by Concerned User

# re: Me.dium and TRUSTe have a falling out...

@Concerned User

I find that very hard to believe.  We use Get Satisfaction (getsatisfaction.com/medium) to track all questions or concerns and answer all of them in as timely a manner as we can.  Also, emailing support at me dot dium dot com goes directly to several Me.dium employees who always respond within one day.

Also, there are many real-time conversations that go on daily in the Me.dium sidebar that our community team are always involved in.

If you really do have questions that are not being answered for some reason, please feel free to email me directly at david at me dot dium dot com and I would be happy to answer.  

Here's some more information on how we approach privacy:

vator.tv/.../medium-interview-2-david-mandell-03-25-08-6

Saturday, April 19, 2008 10:38 AM by David

# re: Me.dium and TRUSTe have a falling out...

Concerned User:

I'm sorry to hear about your experience with us as being slow and inadequate. We work really hard to answer questions from our users in a quick and open manner. We have a dedicated team that just helps with support, answers questions and is available as much as possible for any interaction with users on our product. If you want to drop me a line on Me.dium my user name is jkdill and/or my email address is jdillingham@me.dium.com. I would like to hear more about your experience(s) to improve both our product and our service.

Jeremy

Saturday, April 19, 2008 11:13 AM by Jeremy Dillingham

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