And another one.... classmates.com has a problem....

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 Edited on 21 August 2008 to replace deleted graphic... surprisingly, the SWF is still accessible via the original URL, even after all this time.

This time the URL is:

http://nztv.prod.untd.com/RealMedia/ads/Creatives/ISP/CM_GeminiIntera_FPWS_5_10179/160x600.swf

Same malicious SWF:

iexplorer-security.org/?id=624400105

Same redirect, same end result...

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Something occurs to me - let's look closely at the URL - it refers to "GeminiIntera"... could that be a reference to "Gemini Interactive", an online advertising agency?

I'm betting it does. Let's check out who is behind www.geminiinteractive.net.

Gemini Interactive's web site is hosted by...

NETDIRECT (reverse 89-149-242-64.internetserviceteam.com)

 

Gemini Interactive's name servers are supplied by... and this is a BIG indication of guilt:

ESTBOXES (aka Estdomains, hosted by the infamous INTERCAGE)

 

Gemini Interactive's mail server is hosted by CERNELNETWORK.   There is some interesting information about CERNELNETWORK to be gleaned.  A quick Robtex check of IP 64.28.182.147 (the IP address of the mail server used by Gemini Interactive and supplied by CERNELNETWORK) resolves to:

SMTP:220 tiger.esthost.com

The IP address in turn reveals even more names:

2barrels.com
4x4project.com
adoptserver.info
bestseatreserved.com
beststuffservice.com
civilengres.com
freebondagecentral.com
iwantmyseat.com
mail.2barrels.com
mail.4x4project.com
mail.adoptserver.info
mailbestseatreserved.com
mail.beststuffservice.com
mail.civilengres.com
mail.freebondagecentral.com
mail.geminiinteractive.com
mail.iwantmyseat.com
mail.realsearchonline.com
mail.rupissing.com
mail.usaticketinfo.com
realsearchonline.com
rupissing.com
samoterra.com
usaticketinfo.com

Once again we can see that if a web site is willing to complete basic investigations into an advertising agency then they may save themselves a lot of grief. 

Any advertising network with the sort of ties revealed in this article cannot and should not be trusted.

It says on the classmates.com web site that classmates.com is a "United Online Company".  So, who are United Online?

United Online describes itself as "a leading provider of consumer Internet and media services with over 50 million members across its stable of brands. The company's primary Content & Media segment services include social networking (Classmates) and online loyalty marketing (MyPoints). Its primary Communications segment services include Internet access and email (NetZero and Juno)."

I think I know, now, why I have received several complaints about malicious banner advertisements in association with Juno.

United Online then goes on to say that they "reach over 20% of the US online adult population and have over 50 million members across [their] properties. [Their] advanced targeting and integrated advertising solutions allow advertisers to effectively and efficiently engage with their target audience. In addition, United Online provides advertisers with sophisticated market research capabilities through its CyberTarget division. CyberTarget can create real-time market research in an Internet environment."

United Online may have "sophisticated market research capabilities" but it seems that their researching abilities do not extend to checking into the background or bona fides of those they accept advertising from.

Comments

# re: And another one.... classmates.com has a problem....

Sunday, March 23, 2008 11:10 AM by Barry

Classmates.com is a crap service anyway.  They charge people out the nose for a service that you could get for free/donations, if just one person from your high school were to buy a basic hosting plan from a web host and set up some forum software on it.

# re: And another one.... classmates.com has a problem....

Monday, April 07, 2008 10:04 PM by kimberly sandwell

even w/ a saved pass worsd it says its the wrong one

# re: And another one.... classmates.com has a problem....

Wednesday, April 09, 2008 12:57 PM by Barbara

My SAVED PASSWORD was changed to a sexually explicit one. It was sent to the old friends I emailed.  How sick they must think I am!!   I want a refund and they are saying no.  What can I do?

Barbara

# re: And another one.... classmates.com has a problem....

Sunday, May 04, 2008 9:18 PM by Elly

I paid for a year of Classmates and really didn't get much out of it. I didn't know that they automatically charged you again once your year was up without notification. I sent several e-mails back and forth and they finally reversed the charge to my cc. I do find it frustrating though when they send a message saying someone has signed my guest book but the only way to find out who is to sign up with a Gold membership for x # of dollars. I won't sign up with them again and if I find a FREE site that's similar, I'd go there instead.

# re: And another one.... classmates.com has a problem....

Tuesday, May 13, 2008 8:22 PM by reyrey

I too was sucked into the Classmates thing. It worked one day, forget getting your money back just hope to use the service a few times before it goes out again.

# re: And another one.... classmates.com has a problem....

Tuesday, May 13, 2008 9:47 PM by Blayne Ludwig

I am a paying gold member of classmates.com and I find there servise wonderful.  I thought it was expensive at irst but after I find it well worth it and would pay double if they raised their rates!  Sorry for those who think a couple of bucks is more valuable than connecting to old friends

# re: And another one.... classmates.com has a problem....

Friday, May 16, 2008 8:24 AM by Dolly Walker

NetZero recently obtained my account number through Classmates and charged my account!!! Please make others aware that they not only share your info but also your account number. I am in the process of trying to cancel my membership we will see what happens.

# re: And another one.... classmates.com has a problem....

Thursday, May 22, 2008 10:46 AM by cheri

does anyone have a phone number to classmates so i can cancel?

# re: And another one.... classmates.com has a problem....

Wednesday, June 04, 2008 3:41 PM by Jonathan

Unfortunately we got caught up in the Gemini scam.

they owe us 5000 - plus they used what was supposed to be a standard add campaign, and then spawned this malicious ads from them

now their number in Boston has been disconnected.

whois does show they are owned by some guy in Seden, with a yahoo email address

god i hate scammers

BTW

happened to me before these posts

# re: And another one.... classmates.com has a problem....

Wednesday, June 11, 2008 9:15 PM by vilma santos

my friends are not reciving my e-mail

# re: And another one.... classmates.com has a problem....

Wednesday, June 11, 2008 9:15 PM by vilma santos

my friends are not reciving my e-mail

# re: And another one.... classmates.com has a problem....

Saturday, June 28, 2008 3:44 PM by Mike

Publicly traded as 'United Online' (UNTD) CA. 'CLASSMATES' was founded in 1995, its CEO is Ted Cahall, located in Renton WA, where their telephone is 425-873-1342.

# re: And another one.... classmates.com has a problem....

Saturday, June 28, 2008 7:31 PM by Sue

I realize I am commenting on an old post, but people, if you look around the classmates site (I think it's on your account), you'll find that there is a little box that you have to uncheck or they will keep charging your credit card for the"gold membership."

Also, if one person from a high school class started a facebook group or any kind of blog, people would not need this scammy classmates.com

# re: And another one.... classmates.com has a problem....

Sunday, July 06, 2008 9:04 PM by Barb

thanks for the  tip to change my "automatic" re-up with classmates.com to manual........

# no problem with Classmates....

Sunday, July 06, 2008 11:08 PM by Donna

Well worth the money!

# re: And another one.... classmates.com has a problem....

Thursday, July 10, 2008 1:25 PM by trish

I WOULD HAVE TO SAY TO ALL OF YOU WHOM THINK CLASSMATES.COM IS CRAP.  I PAID FOR A FULL YR OF CLASSMATES.COM AND IT IS WELL WORTH IT TO ME. I HAVE CONNECTED WITH SO MANY PEOPLE THAT I HAVE NOT SEEN OR HEARD FROM IN MANY YRS. CLASSMATES.COM THANK YOU.

# re: And another one.... classmates.com has a problem....

Thursday, July 10, 2008 7:42 PM by sandi

Trish,

Please do not type in all capitals.  It is very hard to read and is the online equivalent of !!SHOUTING!!

Sandi

# re: And another one.... classmates.com has a problem....

Friday, July 11, 2008 7:14 AM by troubled

after one day of signing up i can't login would be interested in that phone# if one can b found

# re: And another one.... classmates.com has a problem....

Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:30 AM by jim

I have been a Gold member for 3 years, last year they charged automatically to my debit card  $39.00 .  I called and complained and they said I had to change my billing to manual.  I did the change last year and loked at my account yesterday and see they took out $39.00 automatically again.  I just phoned them at 1-425 9175000  and complained,.  I was told that they don't know how this happened and are giving me a refund.  

It's a good thing I checked up on the crooks.  I just cancelled my membership.

Buyer Beware P.S. It was very hard to find their phone number

Jim

call

# re: And another one.... classmates.com has a problem....

Saturday, August 23, 2008 8:16 PM by deb

I joined classmates.com last year with a 3 month gold membership to try to find some old friends.  After 2 months I decided I did not want to continue my membership - basically I found who I was looking for. After reading some bad press about classmates I went onto my profile and changed my renewal notification to manual. I was expecting the worse, but when my renewal was due, I was not charged money nor was my membership continued.

I did continue receiving emails just about every day - which was very irritating. But after a brief email exchange with the main office (address was easy to get) they stopped.  I have not heard from them since.

Overall, my experience was good. I got what I wanted (found my friends) and had absolutely no problems cancelling my membership or stopping the emails.

# re: And another one.... classmates.com has a problem....

Monday, September 08, 2008 1:45 PM by tammy a driskill

 Anyone signing up for anything should read

all the provided info BEFORE you whip out your

credit card-I have exchanged emails for free, put photos and bulletins on my site , and viewed others'   for free-----so what if I

am informed that "39 people viewed your site, find out who by upgrading"  Who cares who the

39 people are, if its important they will email

me thru the classmates site.

# re: And another one.... classmates.com has a problem....

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 10:04 AM by Ms. Kris

First, I wanted to say, you always get the dud, rip-off stuff (sites like classmates.com) before we will get the good, free sites that are good.  I wanted to tell others, incase you haven't figured it out yet: if you google classmates.com or just classmates...you will then be able to say you were smart enouph to find the good, FREE sites!  There was one called Alumz.com that was FREE and others (I haven't had time yet to subscribe or check it out in detail (so buyer beware-but it is free--the way it looks unless there is hidden advertisers and cookies)..but check it and others out in detail after googling classmates to find the free good sites to tell your classmates to sign up at...your high school or alumn coordinator should be able to give you a list of all your old classmates that are interested in reunions and you can mail or e-mail them to start communication for free on a new free site called "alumz" or others...my local home town has a website and ipod business guy who set up a FREE classmates communication with pictures and communication tools for all home-town people to take advantage of..so google and check out your home town web sites which may be an option to start NOW, not in the future of having great, FREE classmate sites!!!

 Other problems I had was they get you to register TWICE without telling you , you were already registered (I thought I was just going into my original profile and login ID, then I realized there was no way to get my two names off my class listings and I couldn't find there e-mail or phone either..it wasn't even under the "help" menu, only generic problem-answer questions...I have no doubt they purposely register you twice, make it impossible for you to find or rememer you password then they can say they have "a zillion members" when probably they only have one-half of the members they say because I saw many names duplicated because other people had the same problem I do.

 The good home-town site I was telling you we have is myfortdodge.com...so you can look for similar ones in your home-town or class town.

 Also, I am only a FREE member, I like seeing my and other old friends profiles and pictures, but I have also it saying I have 80 or more people signing my guest book..first of all, they automatically sign it for you, and you have to delete it before you leave a profile, or it automatically signs it for you..what a false signing of a guestbook!!  Also, I highly suspect the guest book signing is also when I visited my own profile to update or view my number of visitors..another huge, false rip-up..I would would not be considered a "visitor" if I am updating and viewing my OWN profile!!!!! rip, rip, lies, deciet.............but I still like the pictures.....yes, get to a FREE site FAST!!

Kris in Chandler, AZ.