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SBS 2003 Setup.exe vs. Vista

OBTS — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 18:04:24 GMT

Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
Subject: SBS 2003 Setup.exe vs. Vista
From: "Rob B." <notonatusedotnet>
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 22:41:40 GMT

I added the first Vista client to an SBS 2003, SP1 domain. Until now, all clients were WinXP, SP2. Office 2007 is installed on the XP clients, and the Vista client, which may not be pertinent to this problem.

As is normal, "\\SERVER\Clients\Setup\setup.exe /s SERVER" is executed when a user logs on to any domain client. On the Vista client, I always get the dialog -- regardless of the account privilege -- asking for permission to run Setup.exe. It is annoying. Occasionally, the Program Compatiblity Assistant will appear and advise there's a known compatiblity issue with Setup.exe. It points to KB article 926505 for resolution. The title of the KB is, "Windows Small Business Server 2003: Windows Vista and Outlook 2007 compatibility update."

When I run the SBS2003SP1-KB926505-X86-ENU.EXE fix, I get the error: "This update cannot be installed. Either it is already installed as part of an existing service pack, or it requires a more recent service pack. For more information, see the systems requirements on the download page."

Intially, Windows Server 2003 SP2 was installed, but I uninstalled it because of that error message. Reverting back to SP1 did not correct the situation.

I'm officially stuck. Ideas?

Rob B.

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From: "Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]" <kweilbacMVPatgtedotnet>
Subject: Re: SBS 2003 Setup.exe vs. Vista
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 20:32:48 -0400
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

you need to install the Ripcurl patch on your SBS 2003 server that's designed to support both Vista workstations and Outlook 2007:

http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/archive/2007/06/08/vista-quot-ripcurl-quot-patch-on-microsoft-update.aspx

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Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]
"The days pass by so quickly now, the nights are seldom long"

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From: "bass_player [SBS-MVP]" <bass_playeratmvpsdotorg>
Subject: Re: SBS 2003 Setup.exe vs. Vista
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 09:32:25 +0800
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

And download this documnt as well to guide you through the process

Using Windows Vista and Outlook 2007 in a Windows Small Business Server 2003
Network
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=46E95C56-1A4C-45BD-8D69-5F41FF8F1F22&displaylang=en

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Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
Subject: Re: SBS 2003 Setup.exe vs. Vista
From: "Rob B."
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 04:45:30 GMT

I went through the suggested documentation prior to making my original post here, but read the docs again just to make sure. I also tried again to apply the ripcurl fix, but still have the same error mentioned in my original post

So, for the time being, I have REM'd out the only line in the SBS_LOGIN_SCRIPT.bat file (\\server\Clients\Setup\setup.exe /s server).

I am uncertain of the impact beyond not getting certain applications (IE6, OL2003) and service packs automatically installed on new clients. Are there any other impacts?

Rob B.

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From: v-terliuatonlinedotmicrosofttodcom (Terence Liu [MSFT])
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 10:20:59 GMT
Subject: Re: SBS 2003 Setup.exe vs. Vista
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

Hello Rob,

Thank you for posting here.

According to your description, I understand that you can not install fix KB926505 on your SBS 2003 and get error message. If I have misunderstood the problem, please don't hesitate to let me know.

Based on my research, KB891193 installation did not complete may relate to that Small Business Server 2003 has been partially updated and may not work properly. I suggest we try the following steps to see if we can resolve this issue:

Please go through the following document to download the 5 parts of SBS 2003 sp1 and install them on the SBS 2003 in turn. Downloading and Installing Windows Small Business Server 2003 Service Pack 1

http://download.microsoft.com/download/e/0/f/e0fee8ce-768d-41c0-8871-9bc48e0b3fc3/ToDownLoadFilesandReadInstructions.htm

Note: The 5 parts:
Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1

Windows SharePoint Services 2.0 Service Pack 1

Exchange Server 2003 Service Pack 1

Windows XP SP2 for Client Deployment

Windows Small Business Server 2003 Service Pack 1

Then, try to install the KB891193 again.

If we can not resolve the issue after we perform the above steps, please kindly help me collect some information for further investigation:

1. Please capture screenshots on the error messages and send the pictures to me at v-terliuatmicrosoftdotcom

2. Use the MPS report to capture the server configurations for further analysis:
a. Download MPSrepot_network from
http://download.microsoft.com/download/b/b/1/bb139fcb-4aac-4fe5-a579-30b0bd915706/MPSRPT_NETWORK.EXE

b. Run MPSRPT_NETWORK.exe on the server box.

c. The tool will automatically collect the information. This procedure will take 10~15 minutes.

d. Open Windows Explorer, navigate to the folder: %SystemRoot%\MPSReports\Network\Reports\Cab\

e. Send the .cab file directly to me at v-terliuatmicrosoftdotcom

Hope these steps will give you some help.

Thanks and have a nice day!

Best regards,

Terence Liu(MSFT)

Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support

Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

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Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
Subject: Re: SBS 2003 Setup.exe vs. Vista
From: "Rob B."
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 04:21:03 GMT

Terence,

For the benefit of all, here are the results:

After selecting the option to display Updates in the Add/Remove Programs list, I saw that KB891193 was already installed. However, KB926505 still would not install as per the previous discussion here.

I opted for a clean, off-line installation, including a reformat of the boot/system drive. Immediately after, I installed the 5 parts of SP1. On the final (5th) step, Windows Small Business Server 2003 Service Pack 1, the process failed and displayed the following error message:

"Windows Small Business Server Service Pack 1 Setup has encountered an error. For more information, review the most recent entry in the Setup error log in C:\Program Files\Microsoft Integration\Windows Small Business Server 2003\logs\setup.log. Then correct the error and run Service Pack 1 Setup again."

The referenced setup.log contained no hint of any errors, instead showing that everything was successful. I tried re-installing the SP a couple more times with the same result.

I decided to press on and connected to the Internet, letting Windows Update figure out what else was needed. By the time it was through, KB926505 had been installed and, after re-configuring the Vista client for the new domain, have not had a problem with the default SBS_LOGIN_SCRIPT.bat file when logging on with a limited user account.

As additional information, prior to the rebuild, the server was running WSUS 3.0, WSS 2, SAV Server, and a 3rd party FTP server (GeneFTP). For now, it's strictly SBS 2003, SP2. I'll try WSS 3 next, but that's for another day. Thank you for your help.

Best,
Rob B.

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From: Terence Liu [MSFT]
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 10:34:38 GMT
Subject: Re: SBS 2003 Setup.exe vs. Vista
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

Hello Rob,

Thank you for kind update.

I'm glad to hear that you can install KB926505 on your SBS, and your Vista client can work fine now.

For the SBS 2003 sp1 installation error, since you do not find any error in the setup log, I think we can ignore this error.

If you still have concern on the SBS 2003 sp1 installation error, please try to create a new thread to get further investigation.

I'd like to make a summary for this post:

Issue:
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Can not install hotfix KB926505 on SBS 2003, and get error:

"This update cannot be installed. Either it is already installed as part of an existing service pack, or it requires a more recent service pack. For more information, see the systems requirements on the download page."

Resolutions:
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Reinstall SBS 2003 sp1:
Downloading and Installing Windows Small Business Server 2003 Service Pack 1
http://download.microsoft.com/download/e/0/f/e0fee8ce-768d-41c0-8871-9bc48e0b3fc3/ToDownLoadFilesandReadInstructions.htm

Please do not hesitate to post in this great newsgroup if you need any assistance in the future. I look forward to working with you again.

Thank you and have a nice day,

Best regards,

Terence Liu(MSFT)

Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support

Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

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How to burn an ISO file that is a .img

OBTS — Wed, 21 Feb 2007 04:06:15 GMT

Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 20:53:11 -0800
Subject: How to burn an ISO file that is a .img
From: Hollis 64 Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

I downloaded the DVD-ISO image of the Windows SDK. The file name is 6.0.5383.1.1.WindowsSDK_Vista_idw.DVD.Rel.img. How do I burn this to disk using Vista Ultimate 64-bit? I have the ISO-Burner, but that requires a .iso image file.

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Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA USA

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From: "Sascha Benjamin Jazbec" <barefoot_nrwREMOVE at THISgmx dot net>
Subject: Re: How to burn an ISO file that is a .img
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 06:10:17 +0100
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

www.imgburn.com

Small, Free, simple as can be and vista compatible.

Burns all iso,img,vcd,dmg ... and else.

I use it all time and it never misburnt one.

SJ/ germany

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From: "totallygreen" <joelee100 at gmail dot com>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
Subject: Re: How to burn an ISO file that is a .img
Date: 19 Feb 2007 21:11:10 -0800

imgburn should do it. TG

http://www.imgburn.com/

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From: forkart <supportatmsnmonitordotcom>
Subject: Re: How to burn an ISO file that is a .img
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 02:24:38 -0800
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

Just download magiciso to burn iso file(maybe .img) to cd and dvd. it works great.

'MagicISO - Burn ISO, BIN, NRG'
(http://www.magiciso.com/tutorials/miso-burnwin.htm)

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forkart

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From: vasu <vasu discussions microsoft com>
Subject: Re: How to burn an ISO file that is a .img
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 03:45:36 -0800
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

Just rename *.img to *.iso and your burner will support. That's what i do with my Nero burner.

vasudev

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What has happened to the Network Place?

OBTS — Tue, 09 Jan 2007 17:26:00 GMT

Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 12:26:03 PST
Subject: What has happened to the Network Place?
From: Hollis Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

In WinXP we could set up Network Places and not have to enter the full URLs every time we wanted to go to that resource. What is it called in Vista and how do I set one up?

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Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA USA

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From: "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper at email dot com>
Subject: Re: What has happened to the Network Place?
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 16:18:41 -0500
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

It's called "Network" and is found on the Start Menu unless you've removed it.

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Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 13:36:26 PST
Subject: Re: What has happened to the Network Place?
From: Hollis Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

It is there, and it is showing me all the computers and places on my domain. How does it help me post a page from Word 2007 to my blog at

http://msmvps.com/blogs/obts/default.aspx ?

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Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA USA

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From: "Mhzjunkie" <mhzjunkie at 40-ounce dot com>
Subject: Re: What has happened to the Network Place?
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 16:56:45 -0500
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

Open My Computer. Right click on any area on the right hand side where the drives are listed. You see "Add a Network Location". I believe that's what you're asking for.

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Mhzjunkie

1 PRINT "Windows XP ERROR"
GOTO 1
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Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 14:31:25 PST
Subject: Re: What has happened to the Network Place?
From: Hollis Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

That, indeed, is what I was looking for. I was able to add a network place to my file server on a box in the domain.

It did not help me connect to the blog server, which requires me to log in--kept saying it didn't look like a valid address.

Perhaps this has to be set up in IE7.

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Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA USA

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Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 09:05:58 PST
Subject: What has happened to the Network Place--Redux?
From: Hollis Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

OK, I really have been informed about the "NetWork Place" equivalent--it is the Add Network Place right function in the Conputer panel. And it is nice that one does not have to select Microsoft Windows Network thingy before getting a display of all the computers on the local network. But I also want to set network places to Internet address. In the computer page, it is not accepting any Internet address.

Where do I set up a Network Place to an Internet address, with login parameters and all?

Somehow it doesn't seem that I should have to declare an imaginary modem to get something like this to work.

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Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA USA

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Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 11:26:47 PST
Subject: Re: What has happened to the Network Place--Redux?
From: Hollis Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

Turns out that, in Word 2007, you type Alt F -> Publish -> Blog, which brings up a ribbon group with all the buttons you need. It also kicks off a wizard to register your blog, with all the connection parameters, parameters, etc. Once you find it, it is easy to use. I found the following blog article: http://neosmart.net/blog/archives/173 , which told me how to do this.

It does not show up in your Network Places.

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Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA USA

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...Time passes...

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Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 18:10:32 PST
Subject: SPS03 and WebDav
From: Hollis Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.sharepoint.portalserver

I have been trying to get NetWork Places to work with respect to my SharePoint Portal 03 from my Vista Client ever since I installed it. Today I followed the hint of doing a network place to a file share, and asked the IIS help on how to share a web site. This led to WebDav redirection and to WebDav itself. (And I recalled earlier messages saying that the old network folder functionality had been absorbed into WebDav.) Anyway, the WebDav redirection help said that you had to allow the WebDav extensions for IIS. So I looked. Sure enough, in the extensions list, WebDav Extensions were Prohibited. And they are allowed in the File Server on the same box.

Does allowing WebDav Extensions in IIS cause problems for SharePoint Portal Server 2003? How about in IIS5 web sites?

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Hollis Paul
Mukilteo WA USA

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From: sezel <sergeiatzelenovdotru>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.sharepoint.portalserver
Subject: Re: SPS03 and WebDav
Date: 17 Apr 2007 07:45:51 -0700

Isn't your portal site configured for Basic authentication by any chance? Because Vista disallows this by default for WebDAV connections.

As for the extensions, enabling them does not make much sense as DAV functionality is already provided by SharePoint itself. I'm not sure if it will cause problems, but that's where my guess would be.

HTH,
Sergei

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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 11:09:43 PST
Subject: Re: SPS03 and WebDav
From: Hollis Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.sharepoint.portalserver

Sezel, thank you for the post. Yes, it is configured for Basic Authentication. How do we set Vista to allow Basic Authentication for WebDav connections?

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Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA USA

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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 20:41:12 PST
Subject: Re: SPS03 and WebDav
From: Hollis Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.sharepoint.portalserver

I worked at this, with the aid of the WebDAV help on the SharePoint box, and enabled WebDav and Integrated authentication. I could then create Network places on Vista that pointed to the SharePoint Portal sites and doc libraries. I disallowed the WebDav extensions and was still able to create a Network Place in the postal.

I tried the same with my IIS webs on the SBS server. I could not create a Network Place on that web until I had both WebDav Extensions allowed on the Virtual Server, and Integrated authentication allowed.

Mystery sort of solved. Agatha Christy does it better.

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Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA USA

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From: sezel <sergeiatzelenovdotru>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.sharepoint.portalserver
Subject: Re: SPS03 and WebDav
Date: 18 Apr 2007 01:13:20 -0700

Hollis,

I understand it may be a bit too late now, but here's the article:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/841215

So you may go back to Basic Auth if you need to

Good luck!

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Microsoft ISATAP adapter

OBTS — Mon, 08 Jan 2007 18:57:00 GMT

From: "Harry Sherman" <sherhar@westelcom.com>

Subject: Microsoft ISATAP adapter

Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 07:02:35 -0500

Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing

In Device Manager, under Network Adapters I find a new entry called "Microsoft ISATAP Adapter".The yellow explanation mark indicating a problem is present. Status shows "Windows is unable to install this driver".

Search for a better driver on-line returns "Driver up to date" and "Best driver is already installed".

I have not installed any new programs lately, but did install an updated driver for my Rhine II network driver through Microsoft Update, but this

shows OK. Disabling ISATAP driver does not seem to make any difference to

my home network connections.

System: VIA PM-800 MB; Dual boot XP and Vista on separate drives; Vista Build 5600.

Home Network with two computers (One Vista, the other ME)

Can anyone tell me what this driver is for, and how it may have been installed?

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From: "Jeff" <S.Cerevisiae@duh.edu>

Subject: Re: Microsoft ISATAP adapter

Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 10:50:54 -0500

Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing

Here ya go,

The Internet/Site Automatic Tunnel Addressing Protocol (ISATAP)

connects IPv6 hosts/routers over IPv4 networks. ISATAP views the IPv4

network as a link layer for IPv6 and views other nodes on the network

as potential IPv6 hosts/routers. ISATAP supports automatic tunneling

and a tunnel interface management abstraction similar to the Non-

Broadcast, Multiple Access (NBMA) and ATM Permanent/Switched Virtual

Circuit (PVC/SVC) models.

Basically it's installed with the os.

Jeff

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From: "Jeff" <S.Cerevisiae@duh.edu>

Subject: Re: Microsoft ISATAP adapter

Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 11:14:02 -0500

Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing

umm

IPv6 is on in Vista by default-you can turn it off though.

Go here,

Control Panel\Network and Internet\Network Connections

right click your network card>properties uncheck the IPv6 box that'll turn off IPv6-then just disable the adapter driver

That's if it's causing you issues,

Jeff

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How to connect a Vista Client to the domain?

OBTS — Wed, 03 Jan 2007 19:09:00 GMT

Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 13:44:54 PST
Subject: How to connect a Vista Client to the domain?
From: Hollis Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

I have installed a Vista client computer. I go to connect the computer to the domain by entering http://<domainserver> and get the page with the four options. I choose connect computer to domain. I get the page with the active x that tells me to start the wizard now. I click that, and get an error message which says I have to be an administrator on the computer (which I presume is the domainserver). I go to the SBS2003 console and add a new user, with the same name as the user on the client computer. I attempt to connect the computer to the domain, in the same way, and get the same error. I don't see anyway to tell it to use the domain user.

So, I create a computer and am told to go back and use the IE interface. Still will not let me connect.

How do we do this with Vista?

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Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA USA

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From: "HandyAndy aka Andy Goodman [SBS-MVP}" <andy att spamkillerSBS-Rocks dot com>
Subject: Re: How to connect a Vista Client to the domain?
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 18:27:50 -0500
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

http://seanda.blogspot.com/2006/08/looking-to-run-vista-rc1-on-sbs-2003.html

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Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 19:23:32 PST
Subject: Re: How to connect a Vista Client to the domain?
From: Hollis Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

The first step seems to be the killer. It says to log in as the special administrator account that was set up in the install. How does one do that. All I am able to get to is the screen with the gliphs for the two users I created. Right-clicking doesn't get me a style drop-down in which I can "classical" version in which I can enter "Administrator". I presume it uses the same mechanism as WinXP did, but that installation was so long ago I have forgotten how it worked.

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Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA USA

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From: "Kerry Brown" <kerry kdbNOSPAMsys-tems c*a*m>
Subject: Re: How to connect a Vista Client to the domain?
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 19:38:58 -0800
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

The article was written for RC1. In the RTM the built in administrator is disabled in safe mode as well unless there are no other admin accounts. To join a Vista pc to an SBS domain I just right click IE and pick Run as administrator. If you get any complaints about enabling the Intranet then do so. The wizard doesn't work 100% but it will get the pc joined to the domain and in the proper OU. It won't add any domain users to the local admin group so if you want that you'll have to logon as a domain admin and add the users or groups manually to the local admins group. The article is mostly right about the steps for RTM, just ignore the part about using the special administrator account.

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Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2

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From: "kj"
Subject: Re: How to connect a Vista Client to the domain?
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 21:34:41 -0700
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

A little patience (January 2007) is asked as it appears.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;926505&sd=rss&spid=3208

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/kj

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Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 22:18:38 PST
Subject: Re: How to connect a Vista Client to the domain?
From: Hollis Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

I did say I was interested in filling up a cold, winter night. I'm not interested in standing out in the cold and stargazing. No telescope, for one. And no digital camera to record anything on the telescope. That leaves working on the computer.

Besides, I feel simpatico with the Zantac Man. Wait a month? That's crazy talk. And, do you really have faith that the patch will appear in January? You believe in Santa Clause, still?

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Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA USA

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From: "kj"
Subject: Re: How to connect a Vista Client to the domain?
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 23:39:31 -0700
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

I can't blame you for that but it said;

"Until the update is released, you must manually join Windows Vista-based computers to a Windows SBS network. To do this, follow these steps."

The 4 step program sounds much like what the patch will achieve.

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/kj

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Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 09:08:15 PST
Subject: Re: How to connect a Vista Client to the domain?
From: Hollis Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

Actually, I don't really sympathize with Zantac man. And, while I have done almost everything on the server already, it does seem like a lot of extra work in the land of wizards. My basic values are beginning to kick in--What me Worry? What really frosts me is that I can go anywhere out there on the internet, get into any trouble I want, but I can't get to my home page because it resides on the SBS server intranet. Seems to me, that if the domain server was really controlling resources, it wouldn't even let me out on the internet. One gets the feeling that all this windows authentication is a bunch of smoke and mirrors, signifying not much, but guaranteeing product loyalty.

Which also raises a question. I have a WinXP client workstation that logs into its workgroup-not the domain. Yet, just having a domain account of the same name and password gives that client access to all the domain resources. Is Microsoft trying to kill off that basic, DOS connectivity?

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Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA USA

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From: "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]"
Subject: Re: How to connect a Vista Client to the domain?
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 09:07:16 -0600
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

XP does a better job of allowing Pass Thru Authenication (PTA). In Vista the goal was to make it more secure, so, in otherwords, isolate a workstation that simply comes up, plugs into your ethernet and wants to try to access resources. Longhorn Server will enhance this "network" quarantine even further.

I have Vista Ultimate connected to SBS, its not a problem to do, several have outlined the procedure, and it will allow access to the resources then.

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Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]
<crisnospamhanna@computingnospampossibilities.net>
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Please do not contact me directly, only respond in the Newsgroups
MVPs do not work for Microsoft

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Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 09:56:43 PST
Subject: Re: How to connect a Vista Client to the domain?
From: Hollis Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

Thanks, Cris, I will toy with it some more to see if I can get it to work.

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Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA USA

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From: "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]"
Subject: Re: How to connect a Vista Client to the domain?
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 12:17:07 -0600
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

Just to be clear
1. Logon to Vista (with an account with Admin rights)
2. Right Click on IE > Run As Administrator
3. In the addresse bar > http://sbsservername/connectcomputer
4. From there you will have the same wizard as you do with XP

After a bit, it will come back up and tell you have to press Ctrl-Alt-Del

The account it will revert to is sbs_netsetup or something like that
Choose Logon as a different user
Logon with an SBS user name/password
You will need to get the new firewall client since you have premium

Ping me if you need help with this

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Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]
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Please do not contact me directly, only respond in the Newsgroups
MVPs do not work for Microsoft
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Send via Windows Mail on Vista Ultimate connected to SBS 2003 R2

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Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 13:06:49 PST
Subject: Re: How to connect a Vista Client to the domain?
From: Hollis Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

I did not go and get the hotfix that the KB 926505 says is necessary. So the wizard completed, with an error, and there is no client setup that I can find on the Vista computer. At least, there isn't anything on the menus. I haven't rooted about in the directories looking for it.

Do I need that hotfix?

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Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA USA

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From: "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]"
Subject: Re: How to connect a Vista Client to the domain?
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 16:00:32 -0600
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

There is nothing you will really see. But what error did you get?

The KB article refers to an update to SBS for a more seamless adding of Vista clients to SBS

Its not out yet...won't be out till around the time that Vista is commercially available in stores (January 30th)

There is a new Firewall client out to let vista and ISA 2004 work more seamlessly, but you can make the current ISA client work, by using XP SP2 compatiblity and run as administrator on all the firewall client files in that folder.

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Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 20:31:12 PST
Subject: Re: How to connect a Vista Client to the domain?
From: Hollis Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

The message I got was the unhelpful "An error occurred when configuring networking settings. See your Network Administrator." Right on. But since I am the Network Administrator, it doesn't help much.

So, think things over, I recalled that I did not get the wizard to run by using the name of the account, but the logon name. Perhaps I should not be using an account for HollisVista Paul, but the HollisV64, which is the logon name. So, I created a user in the workgroup with that name, and gave it administrator group membership. Now, when I try to connect to the domain, I just get the error message at /ConnectComputer/Error.htm">http://<servername>/ConnectComputer/Error.htm . Specifically:

"The Small Business Server Networking Wizard was not installed. You may not be a member of the local Administrators security group on this computer or your Local Intranet security settings may be set to High. Click Connect to the network now to try again and click Yes when prompted. If the wizard fails to install, contact the person responsible for your network.

Connect to the network now"

In fact my Local Intranet security settings are set to Medium-low.

Does the fact that I don't have to go through the business of selecting a user account and computer mean that it falls in place from the name?

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Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA USA

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From: "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]"
Subject: Re: How to connect a Vista Client to the domain?
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 16:41:29 -0600
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

Hollis

You forgot to right click on the IE and choose Run As Administrator Do that and then try the HollisV64 logon name and password

In network properties, uncheck the IPv6

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Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]

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Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 19:13:22 PST
Subject: Re: How to connect a Vista Client to the domain?
From: Hollis Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] wrote:
> You forgot to right click on the IE and choose Run As Administrator
> Do that and then try the HollisV64 logon name and password
>
Actually, it makes no difference between the two. It always goes to that error message.

Is the cursed FireWall blocking this? There are only three exception boxes checked on the allowed programs: core networking, network discovery, and remote assistance. Should anything else be checked for this? Should I disable the firewall just to test?

> In network properties, uncheck the IPv6
>
Fortunately, I never put anything into it.

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Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA USA

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From: "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]"
Subject: Re: How to connect a Vista Client to the domain?
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 10:28:01 -0600
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

X64 connecting to SBS Premium has been an issue, but will get fixed with the update that is coming out, but I understand you don't want to wait for that.

Charlie Russel (Windows Server MVP) has been the expert for Vista X64 and SBS...I'll see if I can ping him and get him to jump in on this

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Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]

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From: "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie at mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps dot org>
Subject: Re: How to connect a Vista Client to the domain?
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 09:53:16 -0800
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

I don't have time or energy to read through the whole thread, I'm here because Chris asked me to. So if some of this has been covered, sorry about that. I'm on vacation and not supposed to be touching my computer, and definitely no newsgroups. ;)

1.) There is no official supported connectcomputer way to do this.

2.) That being said, I'm running it just fine. With one exception - you'll need to disable the automatic program launcher that hits every SBS client on every login. You don't want it on this box - it and UAC don't play nice together. You can't disable it by computer, you can only do it by user, by removing the SBS_LOGIN_SCRIPT.bat from the users Profile in ADUC.

3.) Disable the ISA RPC filter. It doesn't play well with anything x64.

( http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64/archive/2006/06/08/100096.aspx )

4.) Manually join to the domain, using standard Windows Server AD steps. Well and thoroughly documented many places.

5.) Install the updated ISA client. It's now available on the MS download site, see my blog for details:

http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64/archive/2006/12/12/finally-isa-client-for-vista-and-xp-x64-releases.aspx

6.) If you don't for some reason want to run the ISA client, use DHCP reservations and a custom IP address rule in ISA.

7.) Once the Vista x64 machine is joined to the domain, move it to the proper SBS spot in AD, using ADUC and dragging it to the proper folders.

8.) While in ADUC, remove the SBS_LOGIN_SCRIPT.bat from the user's profile that logs in to this computer.

9.) With R2, it _should_ get automatically added to WSUS, but if it doesn't, manually add it. Note: there is an issue currently with getting updates directly. Until there is an official Vista/SBS patch, you can only get WSUS approved updates once you're part of an SBS domain and are running Vista - you can't get to Windows update directly.

Sorry if turnaround will be slow here. You're welcome to ping me offline, but I'm just not spending time on the newsgroups while I'm on vacation.

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Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64

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Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 11:08:42 PST
Subject: Re: How to connect a Vista Client to the domain?
From: Hollis Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

Thanks, Charlie. You go back to your vacation. I'll struggle as far as I can and will wait through January, if necessary, for the SBS2003 stuff from MS.

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Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA USA

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Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 15:37:45 PST
Subject: Re: How to connect a Vista Client to the domain?
From: Hollis Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

Happy Days are Here Again!!! I did manage to get the computer to work. I was running down your list of steps, and step 4 failed, with the same error message.

So I started to do Stefano's procedure, went awry, and wound up at the System Information panel where you can change the name or join the network. So, for Duck Soup, I attempted to join the network, and it worked. It would not use the computer name I had set up, but used the workgroup name of the computer. It did find the user account I had created.

So now I am joined to the domain, and I also have the ISA firewall client running. Its clearly a good day.

Thanks go the Charlie and Stefano, and all the others who have helped along the way.

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Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA USA

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What follows is a major subthread that over-lapped the main thread.

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From: "Stefano Colasanti"
Subject: Re: How to connect a Vista Client to the domain?
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 18:25:50 -0500
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

I am not sure that I am understanding what you say correctly so forgive me
if I misunderstood your issue.

Getting to the point: the actual situation is indeed far from perfect but you can access the domain resources, like the default home page on an intranet site; the only problem is that you have to manually set http://companyweb/default.aspx as your default page.

Happy Holidays

Stefano Colasanti

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Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 20:31:12 PST
Subject: Re: How to connect a Vista Client to the domain?
From: Hollis Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

Stefano Colasanti wrote:
> the only problem is that you have to manually set http://companyweb/default.aspx as your default page.
>
I'm afraid that doesn't work either. I entered that in the Internet Options and then started IE. It reported that it could not connect.

It is interesting that I can go to http://<servername> and get the page with the four options, one of which is companyweb. But when I click the companyweb link, it reports that it cannot connect.

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Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA USA

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From: "Kerry Brown"
Subject: Re: How to connect a Vista Client to the domain?
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 21:19:46 -0800
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

What dns server is set in the TCP/IP properties for the Vista client?

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Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2

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Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 11:44:44 PST
Subject: Re: How to connect a Vista Client to the domain?
From: Hollis Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

That is an interesting question. The TCP/IPv4 properties have DG, WNS and DNS set to the server IP. The TCP/IPv6 properties are undefined. Is that a problem here?

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Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA USA

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From: "Kerry Brown"
Subject: Re: How to connect a Vista Client to the domain?
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 13:01:37 -0800
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

No, that is as it should be. I was just checking. The previous post and some of the others pointed to a possible DNS problem. It sounds like that is not the case.

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Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2

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From: "Stefano Colasanti"
Subject: Re: How to connect a Vista Client to the domain?
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 10:17:59 -0500
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

This is weird; I was a beta tester for Vista and I never encountered this issue.

Eventually you could consider to wipe out you domain account and all the related files in Vista, delete and re-add the client computer in SBS and follow the wizard.

If this does not work either you could turn on and use the "real" administrator account that, in Vista, is hidden. If you decide to do this, don't forget, as soon as you succesfully joined the domain, to de-activate the "super-administrator" account.

Happy Holidays
Stefano Colasanti

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Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 08:29:13 PST
Subject: Re: How to connect a Vista Client to the domain?
From: Hollis Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

Thanks, Stefano, for the help.

> If this does not work either you could turn on and use the "real"
> administrator account that, in Vista, is hidden.
>

How do you do that? And, as a collateral issue, how do you dump that icon based logon page and go back to the classic logon control. I really do not see myself as either a flower, a goldfish, or a kitten. It is nice that Vista has advanced graphics, but this is really stupid.

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Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA USA

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From: "Stefano Colasanti"
Subject: Re: How to connect a Vista Client to the domain?
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 11:56:28 -0500
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

DISCLAIMER: enabling the hidden "Administrator account" could increase the vulnerability of your system, follow the following procedure at your own risk.

Here it is what to do to enable the hidden ""Administrator account":

Log in Vista with your local account (The one you created when Vista was installed)/ Click the "Orb" (Start)/ Click "Control Panel", "System and manteinance", "Administrative tools"/ While in "Administrative tools" click "Computer management"(The link is in the right pane) and click OK in the "User Control Account Pop-up window/ Once in "Computer management" click "Local users and Groups" then "Users"/ Right click the "Administrator" icon and then "Properties" in the drop-down menu/ Uncheck "Account is disabled".

Now we get to the tricky part: in order for the newly enabled account to appear you have to delete the account you created when Vista was installed; in other words "Administrator" has to be the only existing account together with the "Guest" one (no need to enable the latter though).

For safety reason move all the data you are interested to keep and that is stored in one of the sub-folders under your original account.

Log off , click Ctrl-Alt-Del and now the newly enabled "Administrator" account icon should appear; login and run the wizard to join a SBS Domain again. Be careful: when you enter "your domain/ ConnectComputer" Vista could offer you to enable intranet settings" (this of course unless you already enabled it).

Again I would strongly recommend that after you succesfully joined the domain you re-create your "regular administrator" account and disable the other one.

Hope this help
Stefano Colasanti

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Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 11:08:42 PST
Subject: Re: How to connect a Vista Client to the domain?
From: Hollis Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

Thank you, Stefano. While I sometimes am willing to play risky, I usually wait till I know the "beast". So, I will probably disable the WAN connection before doing any of this, and will disable it after I am done. I will try Charlie Russel's procedure first. Perhaps this will not be necessary.

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Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA USA

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From: "kj"
Subject: Re: How to connect a Vista Client to the domain?
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 13:22:32 -0700
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

>>>>>>>Wait a month? That's crazy talk.

..... Unless it comes from Charlie I suppose.

But then I can't blame you for trying all avenues. ;-)

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/kj

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Subject: Re: How to connect a Vista Client to the domain?
From: Hollis Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

As you will see, I continued to poke at the problem, and it finally yielded. I don't have the foggiest idea what made it work, but finally the Connect to the Domain wizard on the System ID page worked this time. It failed before, but this time it worked. Perhaps it is because I had removed the logon script from the User's Profile and there was no attempt to push anything onto the Vista computer. That sounds reasonable; its my story and I'm sticking to it.

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Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA USA

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From: "kj"
Subject: Re: How to connect a Vista Client to the domain?
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 22:10:24 -0700
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

Persistence and determination win out! Now if only you could repro it.

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/kj

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Comment made by Josh on 12/14/2007

Here is how to get rid of toredo

1) In control panel, open up system. properties.
2) Select the hardware tab, and then click Device Manager.
3) In device manager, click the view menu and select "Show hidden devices".
4) You'll find "Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface" listed under NetworkAdapters.
5) You can right click and disable it.

Josh

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Repartition query

OBTS — Mon, 01 Jan 2007 04:36:01 GMT

From: "formerprof" <formerprof at yahooNOSPAM dot com>
Subject: Repartition query
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 20:17:16 -0800
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

I have Vista Ultimate installed on a 300 gb hard disk. About 65 gb are used and the remainder is free. Is there any reason why I can't boot Acronis Disk Director from CD and take, say, 80 or 100 gb for a second partition?

In the alternative I could "Ghost" the existing partition with True Image 10 and then repartition the drive 200/100. I know that Acronis claims to be able to shrink an imaged partition into a smaller space on restoration.

I'd like to do this and avoid the necessity of doing a complete fresh install. All assistance gratefully received.

formerprof

PS Everything is backed up, my license is legit, I love/hate Windows/Linux, think that Bill Gates should be jailed/decorated and brushed my teeth this morning.

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From: "Michael Jennings" <metarhyme at gmail dot com>
Subject: Re: Repartition query
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 23:03:43 -0600
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

It would be sensible to image the drive before you play with it. Colin Barnhorst recommends an external sata drive. Your 65 Gigs of stuff will take a while to compress, image and verify.

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From: "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Repartition query
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 00:23:33 -0500
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

It is always better to keep your personal files (photos, music, letters
etc.) on a different partition than the system drive/partition.

1. Defrag your system partition

2. Image your system partition to an external drive

3. Shrink the system partition

4. Create one, or more new partitions in the unallocated space you free up by shrinking the system partition.

5. Move all of your personal files to partition D:, or whatever partition you just created. Empty the recycle bin.

6. Defrag the system partition again. Remember, you just copied, and then deleted, your personal files from the system partition - leaving a lot of holes.

7. Create a new image (and verify same) of the system partition and save the image (temporarily) on one of your new partitions.

8. Once satisfied that the new image is competent, you can now delete the original image from your external drive

9. Create a new image (without your personal files) of the system partition on your external drive

10. Now you can delete the temporary image you have stored on your newly created partition

For the record, I archive all of my images on an external drive. I keep the last known good working image on an internal hard drive. I update this image constantly, when the system is in a known good condition. I then copy the image to the external drive so as to have the latest image in two different locations, one for convenience - one for safety.

Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know, You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

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From: "formerprof"
Subject: Re: Repartition query
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 07:32:16 -0800
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

Dear Richard,

Thanks so much for these detailed instructions. I thought maybe they'd be overkill, but I felt secure throughout and they worked properly which is the great criterion.

Happy New Year to you and yours.

formerprof

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From: "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst at msn dot com>
Subject: Re: Repartition query
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 00:14:55 -0700
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

You will get better performance if the data is on a second drive rather than a second partition on the system drive.

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From: "William" <woogles at charter dot net>
Subject: Re: Repartition query
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 07:33:47 -0600
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

How do you change the location of User files in Vista?

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From: "David A. Lessnau" <dlessnau at mail dot com>
Subject: Re: Repartition query
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 08:01:43 -0600
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

If the folder allows it, you can right-click on it, select Properties, and go to the Location tab. Then hit the Move button at the bottom, select the location where you want it moved, and Apply it. I've moved most of my user folders around. I'd like to move my whole user profile, but Application Data stores all kinds of system data (primarily cache data) that I don't want stored with my data. So, I just get by with moving individual folders.

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From: "William"
Subject: Re: Repartition query
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 13:47:39 -0600
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

Thanks for the information.

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From: "formerprof"
Subject: Re: Repartition query
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 07:20:59 -0800
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

Wow! Thanks so much to you all. The job is done with no discernible ill effects. I sure appreciate the help.

I hope the New Year rewards you even before January 30 . . .

formerprof

P.S. Colin, thanks for the data disk suggestion. I've been doing that for many years, and I suspect that a lot of time & occasional real harm would be avoided if many others did the same.

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From: "mikeyhsd" <mikeyhsd at sport dot rr tod com>
Subject: Re: Repartition query
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 07:09:50 -0600
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

Vista Disk Manager is supposed to be able to add/delete/adjust disk partitions. have NEVER tried it yet.

href="mailto:mikeyhsd@sport.rr.com"mikeyhsd@sport.rr.com

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From: "David A. Lessnau"
Subject: Re: Repartition query
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 07:53:22 -0600
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

Since you have Vista Ultimate, take a look in its Backup and Restore Center (you can just type Backup in the search bar under Start to get there fast). It does full disk imagining. I don't know if it's flexible enough for your needs, but you might as well try it out and see if it works.

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Where is the Cooky Jar in Vista?

OBTS — Mon, 01 Jan 2007 00:27:30 GMT

Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 10:13:34 -0800
Subject: Where is the Cooky Jar in Vista
From: Hollis 64 Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

In what directory are the cookies stored and how can I access them, other than just deleting them through the Internet Options panel.

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Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA USA

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From: "mikeyhsd" <mikeyhsd at sport dot rr tod com>
Subject: Re: Where is the Cooky Jar in Vista
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 12:29:02 -0600
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

here is where mine are

"DRIVE":\Users\"Username"\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies

mikeyhsd@sport.rr.com

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Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 14:24:46 -0800
Subject: Re: Where is the Cooky Jar in Vista
From: Hollis 64 Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

Mikeyhsd wrote:
> "DRIVE":\Users\"Username"\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies

I can find that Windows directory, but there is no Cookies directory. Yet, the program I am concerned about is behaving as if it is using a cookie. In addition, I can't find it using Chad's method, either.

Strange.

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Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA USA

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From: "mikeyhsd"
Subject: Re: Where is the Cooky Jar in Vista
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 17:09:24 -0600
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

you have to enable the viewing of system files in Explorer Options Tools Folder Options View settings.

mikeyhsd@sport.rr.com

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From: "Chad Harris" <fixvista-itneedsit dot net>
Subject: Re: Where is the Cooky Jar in Vista
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 14:23:17 -0500
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

Tools>Options>General Tab>Browsing History>Settings>View Files

CH

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Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 14:24:46 -0800
Subject: Re: Where is the Cooky Jar in Vista
From: Hollis 64 Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

In article>, Chad Harris wrote:
> Tools>Options>General Tab>Browsing History>Settings>View Files

I found some cookies there, but only the ones from various Microsoft sites. I couldn't find the one I was looking for.

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Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA USA

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From: "Synapse Syndrome" <synapse at NOSPAMgomez404 dot elitemail tod org>
Subject: Re: Where is the Cooky Jar in Vista
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 19:37:02 -0000
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

In XP you could just type 'cookies' or 'sendto' in the Run box to get there, and it's a shame you can't do this anymore.

ss.

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Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 14:24:47 -0800
Subject: Re: Where is the Cooky Jar in Vista
From: Hollis 64 Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

In article>, Synapse Syndrome wrote:
> In XP you could just type 'cookies' or 'sendto' in the Run box to get there, and it's a shame you can't do this anymore.

That was a neat trick. I couldn't find the cookies on WinXP X64, and that got me right to them. Thanks.

--

Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA USA

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From: "Synapse Syndrome"
Subject: Re: Where is the Cooky Jar in Vista
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 22:44:44 -0000
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

No problem. You can also type 'temp' to get the Windows temp folder as well. Also if you type %temp% in the address bar of an explorer window you can clean out your user temp files easily. These both still work in Vista.

ss.

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From: "Mr. Vista"
Subject: Re: Where is the Cooky Jar in Vista
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 13:41:33 +1100
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

You really come up with some great tips Synapse. Thanks from me too

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From: "Synapse Syndrome"
Subject: Re: Where is the Cooky Jar in Vista
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 16:44:23 -0000
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

You're welcome and thank you very much, Mr. Vista.

ss.

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From: "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" <franksaunders at mvps dot org>
Subject: Re: Where is the Cooky Jar in Vista
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 04:07:40 -0600
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

That works in Vista RTM for me.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.

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From: "Mr. Vista"
Subject: Re: Where is the Cooky Jar in Vista
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 23:40:38 +1100
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

In Build 5744, when you type type 'cookies' or 'sendto' in the Run box it complains about user access being denied. From what you've said Frank, it must have been fixed in RTM.

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From: "Jeff" <S.Cerevisiae at duh dot edu>
Subject: Re: Where is the Cooky Jar in Vista
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 10:30:35 -0500
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

yup
works in RTM

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From: "Synapse Syndrome"
Subject: Re: Where is the Cooky Jar in Vista
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 16:41:37 -0000
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

"Jeff" wrote in message

> yup
> works in RTM

How strange. It has never worked for me on Build 5840 or RTM. I only get an Access is Denied message referring to the legacy junction point/shortcut (or whatever you call it) and not the new location.

ss.

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From: "Jeff"
Subject: Re: Where is the Cooky Jar in Vista
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 11:59:54 -0500
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

I just typed cookies in the search bar, and it showed up, but yup, looks like a junction, but if ya right click> open file location it'll take you to your users folder, for me it's C:\Users\Jeff so I guess it don't work altogether the way it was said. junctions!!

Jeff

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Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 15:40:35 -0800
Subject: Re: Where is the Cooky Jar in Vista
From: Hollis 64 Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

It says Access Denied for me. So that means that it is there, but I just can't see it. I went into folder options, and unchecked the box that says to hide stuff, but not the one for system files. I still could not see it. I will have to go that next level on the next time into Vista.

Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA USA

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From: "Chad Harris" <Vista RTM is really Beta 1.net>
Subject: Re: Where is the Cookie Jar in Vista
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 12:45:53 -0500
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

If you were to go to the

DRIVE":\Users\"Username"\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies

do as Jeff described and right click the folder>properties>security tab> and take possession of the folder and you have some options there depending on your user accounts (for example you can)

Right Click Properties of the folder>Security Tab>Advanced>Owner>Administrators>Full Control in checkboxes>OK>close and reopen

Security Tab>Select the Profile level you want to give Ownership>Add>Type in Profile Name correctly (using the name of the last item in the file path of that particular admin profile>check the boxes>OK>close>reopen.

For example, if you wanted to get permission at the administrators or users level,you can just type in administrators or users in the box after you click add.

I believe that will get you the access you're being denied.

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Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 12:33:10 PST
Subject: Re: Where is the Cookie Jar in Vista
From: Hollis Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

This has turned into a real saga. There was some confusion surrounding which user to use. When I log in as a domain user, I see my user name presented as OBTS\HollisV64. But when I get to the Welcoming Center, it shows as Hollis Vista Paul. But, in the users folder, the users are HollisV64, HollisV64.OBTS, HollisVista Paul, and Public. If I search on cookies, I find a cookies folder for HollisVista Paul. When I use the file explorer and browse to c:\Users\HollisV64.OBTS Cookies is not in that list.

Now, I have taken ownership of C:\Users\HollisV64.OBTS and all its subfolders. Nevertheless, when I use IE7 to go to my blog, it automatically logs me in on the basis of an existing cookie. And I don't see the APP Data folder. When I use Power Disk to walk the folder tree, I see the APP Data folder, and the Roaming Folder, but there is no Cookies under the Windows folder, and I am the owner of that folder. So, it is still a mystery about where it is keeping that cookie. And it doesn't hang around forever. Two hours or so after creating and testing the effects of the cookie, it appears to be gone. I think it is not getting written back to my profile.

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Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA USA

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From: "Jimmy Brush" <JimmyBrush discussions microsoft com>
Subject: Re: Where is the Cookie Jar in Vista
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 19:07:29 -0500
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

Hello,

In most cases (when UAC is turned on, the default), the cookies are actually stored inside a hidden folder that is inside the hidden cookies folder. Taking ownership is not necessary to access it.

To see these hidden folders, you must enable showing hidden files and the showing of protected operating system files by clicking the Organize button in Explorer, Folder and Search Options, View tab, and then changing the specified settings.

However, this will display a lot of other folders (such as the inaccessible application compatability junctions) that may annoy you by cluttering up the display. My instructions below assume you have not enabled these options.

Here it is:

C:\Users\%USERNAME%\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies\Low

Here's how to get to it from whatever account you are logged in as:

- Right-click the start orb
- Click Open
- At the top of the screen that appears, you should see where it says
"Roaming -> Microsoft -> Windows -> Start Menu ->". This is called the breadcrumb bar.
- Inside the breadcrumb bar, click Windows
- Click the white space between the -> after Windows and the down arrow on the right. This will allow you to type in that area.
- Again click on a whitespace in that area to deselect the text
- At the end of what is there, type: \Cookies\Low
- Press enter

- JB
Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User

Windows Vista Support Faq
http://www.jimmah.com/vista/

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From: "Jeff"
Subject: Re: Where is the Cookie Jar in Vista
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 22:45:31 -0500
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

And after doin that,

just click on the folder icon on the left side of breadcrumb bar,
and bingo-path with slashes inserted and everybody-woohoo
example:

C:\Users\Jeff\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies\Low

Jeff

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Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 20:17:17 PST
Subject: Re: Where is the Cookie Jar in Vista
From: Hollis Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

Jimmy, Success at Last! Thanks so much.

I was able to do this, and could see the cookies. It is interesting that there are a bunch of msn cookies there, to places that I have never gone. Microsoft is certainly cooking the cookies, so to speak.

Is there any way to set a pin on a cookie. It does seem that the cookie times out. Is this a Vista feature?

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Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA USA

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From: "Jimmy Brush"
Subject: Re: Where is the Cookie Jar in Vista
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 09:03:17 -0500
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

You're welcome :).

> I was able to do this, and could see the cookies. It is interesting that there > are a bunch of msn cookies there, to places that I have never gone. >Microsoft is certainly cooking the cookies, so to speak.

Yeah, there are many cookies that are saved on your system from banner ads and whatnots that will have an unfamiliar URL.

> Is there any way to set a pin on a cookie.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean here.

> It does seem that the cookie times out. Is this a Vista feature?

Actually, the web site that saves the cookie determines how long the cookie
is good for. I don't believe there is a way to override this behavior.

- JB
Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User

Windows Vista Support Faq
http://www.jimmah.com/vista/

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Vista: Default shutdown choice

OBTS — Sun, 31 Dec 2006 17:17:11 GMT

Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 08:09:49 PST
Subject: Default shutdown choice
From: Hollis Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup

Is there any way to change the default shutdown setting from Sleep to Shutdown? In WinXP it sticks with the last usage. In Vista it seems to always be Sleep. I have the power settings to never sleep, because it would have to be re-booted when I came back to it from having switched to a different computer with my KVM switch.

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Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA USA

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From: "Robert Firth" <webmaster at winvistainfo dot org>
Subject: Re: Default shutdown choice
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 12:01:32 -0600
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup

Start > Control Panel > System & Maintenance > Power Options > "Choose what power buttons do"

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From: "John Barnes" <jbarnes att email tod net>
Subject: Re: Default shutdown choice
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 14:14:00 -0800
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup

Hope it works on RTM. Doesn't change anything with RC1

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Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 14:24:48 -0800
Subject: Re: Default shutdown choice
From: Hollis 64 Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup

In article>,
Robert Firth wrote:
> Start > Control Panel > System & Maintenance > Power Options > "Choose what > power buttons do"

My control panel does not have a System & Maintenance, but I found the Power Options and the Choose what... Unfortunately, The Shutdown button is already set to shutdown. But, apparently the shutdown choice on the Start Menu is not the same as the shutdown button, which is a little button that is supposed to appear somewhere, because the dialog panel it brings up is still set to sleep by default. Sigh.

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Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA USA

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Note Bene: The System & Maintenance window is one of the category groupings of the default Control Panel view. As I chose the Classic View, I don't see that intermediary window. HP

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From: Andy Wyatt <AndyWyatt discussions microsoft com>
Subject: Re: Default shutdown choice
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 14:41:00 -0800
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup

If you want the computer to shut down, use the shut down option on the lock menu, by going to start>arrow key next to lock button>shut down.

Also, here is a link to shut down faq from windows help:
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/335c6a5d-0304-4af1-b135-6bf6c124dc111033.mspx

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Subject: Re: Default shutdown choice
From: Hollis 64 Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup

In article>, Jane C wrote:
> Control Panel\System and Maintenance\Power Options then select 'change plan settings'. Select 'change advanced power settings', expand 'power buttons and lid', select 'start menu power button', change to 'shutdown' :-)

That worked! Kahloo, Kahlay! Thank you Jane. Things like this should not be so hard to discover.

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SBS 2003 with Trend Micro C/S/M Suite - Vista Clients

OBTS — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 20:58:33 GMT

From: "Stu Howe" <sheodi att no.spam.please.cogeco tod ca>
Subject: OT: SBS 2003 with Trend Micro C/S/M Suite - Vista Clients
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 09:51:16 -0500
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

Hi all,

We have a nicely running SBS 2003 domain using Trend's CSM Suite.

I have added a Vista client to the domain and now need to add anti virus to the client. I looked around the Trend site but can't seem to decide if the client install packages on the SBS server will work with Vista.

Has anyone tried this? Are there any gotchas? Did I miss info on the Trend site?

Thanks!

Stu

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From: "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
Subject: Re: SBS 2003 with Trend Micro C/S/M Suite - Vista Clients
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 10:04:12 -0500
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

I don't think it's supported with the current version of OfficeScan, especially since Vista isn't officially released yet. Trend has a beta version (7.8)you can download...

http://endpointsecurity.trendmicro.com/pr/tm/en-us/enterprise/eps/vista.aspx?alsck=35

I also presume this is not intended to be a production workstation and you're just doing testing!

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From: "Stu Howe"
Subject: Re: SBS 2003 with Trend Micro C/S/M Suite - Vista Clients
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 10:15:11 -0500
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

Hi,

Thanks for the info - I had suspected this was the case.

Actually, Vista IS released now to certain MS Business partners and some selected other recipients. I have the RTM version as I am in the latter group mentioned above.

This is a produciton workstation and Vista is behaving perfectly. Anti virus is the only thing need now. Avast 4.7 was working nicely in previous builds, but I was hoping to keep everything integrated....

Will use Avast until Trend issues an update, which I expect will be very soon.

Thanks again,

Stu

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Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 08:39:09 -0800
From: "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]"
Subject: Re: SBS 2003 with Trend Micro C/S/M Suite - Vista Clients
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

Vista may be released.. but there's a ton of "business bar level" stuff for me that isn't ready.

Trend is one of them.

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