How does a SBS network connect to my shiny, new HD DVD player?
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 20:07:07 PST
Subject: How does a SBS network connect to my shiny, new HD DVD player?
From: Hollis Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
My HD DVD player has an Ethernet connection with which they expect to download firmware update. How would I go about setting this up on my SBS2003 network, with ISA 2004 running?
I guess that it would be similar to how NAS volumes are accessed; with the exception that NAS volumes usually do not call home and expect to chat with a server.
The device will also use a NTP server to acquire time, but that should only mean talking to the SBS2003 server box, no?
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Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA USA
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From: "Russ Grover \(SBITS.Biz\)" <support atREMOVETHISDOTSBITSTODBiz>
Subject: Re: How does a SBS network connect to my shiny, new HD DVD player?
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 21:04:06 -0700
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
Well Downloading stuff Usually doesn't matter it's only if the unit would Upload or share itself to the net.
Most NAS units can update firmware by you downloading them saving them to some drive and then updating it.
The Time sync of this unit you won't probably use the SBS since you don't
login to it.
But one of the ones below
time.nist.gov
clock.isc.org
timekeeper.isi.edu
usno.pa-x.dec.com
tock.usno.navy.mil
tick.usno.navy.mil"
And there are many others, however I don't know if it will pass on the time sync through ISA?
(Someone else may help because I've never had to sync something with an external Time source through ISA)
You may have to open port 123 through but I'd try to see if it synced first.
And what kind if DVD Player has a Ethernet port? Is this a Game system thing or a business related item?
If this is the XBox thing, just bring it home to download the Firmware.
Russ
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Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 07:57:40 PST
Subject: Re: How does a SBS network connect to my shiny, new HD DVD player?
From: Hollis Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
Thanks, Russ. I never really paid attention to when I could download stuff. But I do recall that the Win2k3 wants to check for upgrades even before the other stuff is installed.
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Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA USA
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From: "Brian Cryer" <brianc@127.0.0.1.activesol.co.uk>
Subject: Re: How does a SBS network connect to my shiny, new HD DVD player?
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 12:42:24 +0100
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
Never had a dvd player that would connect to a network, interesting. If its only for a firmware update I'd be inclined to never plug it in unless I found I needed a firmware update.
I would have thought it would pull down its IP address and more importantly gateway and ntp server information (if any) from your DHCP server. In which case it should just be a case of plugging it into your network and letting it get on with whatever it does.
Whether ISA will cause a problem ... I've no idea. Sorry.
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Brian Cryer
www.cryer.co.uk/brian
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Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 07:57:40 PST
Subject: Re: How does a SBS network connect to my shiny, new HD DVD player?
From: Hollis Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
Thanks, Brian. I did neglect to say that I don't run DHCP, but use fixed IPs. But, wouldn't the device have to log into the domain to get that info from the DHCP? I can specify it manually, so I will stick with the fixed IP, but if the list of internet savy devices grows larger, I may rethink the matter. I wonder if a DVD player would require a CAL to do this. I shouldn't think so, as it normally would live off-line, with the TV, unless I carry it up to the computer room. I suspect that the scenario they envision is an internet connection through cable. But then, why would one need a DVD player of the cable connection can download video content.
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Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA USA
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From: "Jeff Teel" <jdteel atRMoveThis sugardogdotcom>
Subject: Re: How does a SBS network connect to my shiny, new HD DVD player?
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 08:07:27 -0400
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
This may or may not help you but I had a similar situation when plugging in a D-Link Media player into an SBS (Premium) network. The player was assigned an IP address by DHCP but it also needed access to the Internet to be able to download firmware updates ect. In order to allow that to happen I had to make a new rule in ISA that gave Internet access to the media player. This rule dealt with just the media player so it would now give Internet access to just anyone that plugged into the network.
The rule looks like this when viewing it in ISA 2004 list of policy's:
Name: D-Link Media Internet Access
Action: Allow
Protocol: All Outbound Traffic
From/Listener: D-Link Media
To: External
Condition: All Users
The rule is placed towards the bottom of the rule list just above the SBS Internet Access Rule. I can't remember if I had to put it there to make it work or that is just where it ended up but I (think) I had to place it there!
Jeff
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Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 07:57:40 PST
Subject: Re: How does a SBS network connect to my shiny, new HD DVD player?
From: Hollis Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
This does sound like what I will have to deal with. There are parameters to specify where to get proxy services and dns services. Thanks, Jeff.
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Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA USA
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Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 07:54:48 PST
Subject: Re: How does a SBS network connect to my shiny, new HD DVD player?
From: Hollis Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
Turns out I didn't have to do anything with SBS. I just had to tell the HD_DVD player where the sbs, dns, and proxy servers were. It was a piece of cake, though slow, to download the 37 parts of the upgrade. Alas, it did not solve the interface problems with the HDMI cable. It seems that the player used a later version of the HDMI spec than did the TV. Bummer. But the component video cable (RGB) worked and prodvided a HD signal.
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Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA USA
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