Time hasn't bumped with daylight savings time.

Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 11:03:23 PST
Subject: Time hasn't bumped with daylight savings time.
From: Hollis Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

My time, which is set to come from one of the time servers, has not changed with the new daylight savings time.  I was looking in the System Events list, and the last event for W32Time was an event on 1/9/2007 saying that the client was receiving either no data or bad data from time-nw.nist.gov.  No events since.  Does that mean that it has been getting good time data since then?  And, if yes, are they sending GMT or PDT?

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Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA  USA

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From: "Russ Grover \(SBITS.Biz\)" <support atREMOVETHISDOTSBITSTODBiz>
Subject: Re: Time hasn't bumped with daylight savings time.
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:23:14 -0700
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

Hollis,
It should have changed.
(Reguardless if it grabing the atomic time clock time, Because that just grabs the Min/Sec your PC sets the Time Zone it's in.) Do you have all the Updates on the Servers/PCs

Also make sure that your server is not set to "Arizona" Time zone, and set to "Pacific Time (US and Canada)"

If this still hasn't changed I'd go to.

http://support.microsoft.com/gp/cp_dst

And see if there is something there to help.

But I just checked all my clients servers, and they changed just fine (Thank God)

Russ
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Russell Grover
SBITS.Biz
Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist.
MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, (MCP-SBS)
support @ SBITS.Biz
Remote Computer Support
http://www.SBITS.Biz

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Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:26:37 PST
Subject: Re: Time hasn't bumped with daylight savings time.
From: Hollis Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

Thanks, Russ, for the suggestion.

They have all kinds of stuff for me.  And even one for Exchange.  But I bet that the Exchange one is about meetings and appointments, and I don't use that feature.  I've never seen the sense of making an appointment to meet myself.

Does anyone know if the Exchange update does any more than that?

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Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA  USA

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It really is a bummer that one can't save the page to disk using IE7.  I would ordinarily save such a page to a Word file, but one doesn't have Word on the server.  Fortunately, WordPad is there to save in rtf format.  But this dynamic xhtml isn't helping the user at all.

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From: "Frank McCallister SBS MVP"
Subject: Re: Time hasn't bumped with daylight savings time.
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:30:59 -0500
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

Hi Hollis

To be more precise to Russ the Atomic clocks transmit full time information in GMT and your computer converts it to local time. Your servers and Clients should be upgraded to the new DST patches by Microsoft Update NOT just Windows Update to get ALL the patches unless you are running WSUS. There is also a last minute Sharepoint patch at

http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/2007/03/09/new-sharepoint-2-0-dst-update-and-data-update-tool.aspx

which will not be on MU or WSUS for awhile.

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Frank McCallister SBS MVP
MCP Microsoft Small Business Specialist
COMPUMAC

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From: "Russ Grover \(SBITS.Biz\)"
Subject: Re: Time hasn't bumped with daylight savings time.
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:36:24 -0700
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

I never really thought about it but, I guess you are right it does transmit the GMT time and your PC changes it.

Makes more sense.

Thanks

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Russell Grover
SBITS.Biz
Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist.
MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, (MCP-SBS)
support @ SBITS.Biz
Remote Computer Support
http://www.SBITS.Biz

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Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:36:36 PST
Subject: Re: Time hasn't bumped with daylight savings time.
From: Hollis Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

Thanks, Frank, for the precision.  That answers the real question about why the time didn't change.

Tell me again about how much I love an old cat that hops down from the bed box in well of the desk and barfs on the rug sample where I put my feet.  Grrr!

There are worse things than time not updating with the daylight bump.  If  I wait three weeks, then the problem disappears, no?

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Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA  USA

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From: "Steve"
Subject: Re: Time hasn't bumped with daylight savings time.
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:17:48 -0700
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

If you don't apply the server and workstation patches you'll deal with this again manually in the fall and every spring and fall thereafter.

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Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:27:54 PST
Subject: Re: Time hasn't bumped with daylight savings time.
From: Hollis Paul
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs

Now, that is overly pessimistic.  After all, the express install works on the principle that each update is independent of all the rest.  So, the DLT fix should be independent of the prior one's also.  Particularly, since it is probably just a replacement of tables that define day-light savings time.  Probably a large table, but still, just a table, not code.

> If All Patches, and Service packs, have been installed, And it still Didn't
> Change
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I haven't done them for a couple of weeks.  I want any that fail to get updated and replaced before I pull them down.  I will do the one first, and if that doesn't fly, then get the rest.

> If you don't apply the server and workstation patches you'll deal with this
> again manually in the fall and every spring and fall thereafter.
>
Not necessarily so.  Congress did this to save energy.  Yet the response to their hasty action may have cost more than the savings in energy.  When the analysis is finished, they will surely change their stance and rescind all this fuforah.  You can tell I am an optimist.

But, that point did come to mind as I was posting the message.

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Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA  USA

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