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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://msmvps.com/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Terminal Server or Citrix</title><link>http://msmvps.com/blogs/kwsupport/archive/2005/11/26/76762.aspx</link><description>Someone asked recently whether it would be best to go with Citrix or Microsoft's std Terminal Server product. IMO, especially for the small business marketplace, with Windows 2003 TS, Microsoft has given us a product that we can use instead of Citrix</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008.5 SP2 (Build: 40407.4157)</generator><item><title>re: Terminal Server or Citrix</title><link>http://msmvps.com/blogs/kwsupport/archive/2005/11/26/76762.aspx#84722</link><pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 07:32:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">d67277c4-116b-43f1-b688-e9ef184ea916:84722</guid><dc:creator>Patrick Rouse</dc:creator><description>In regards to the following statement, I disagree.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;The advantages of Citrix in mid-sized business are slim, in smallbiz there are none.&amp;quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2003 Server still lacks many features that can make server based computing viable in the medium sized business:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1.  No RDP over HTTPS (not yet at least)&lt;br&gt;2.  No RDP Load Balancing (NLBS is NOT RDP Load Balancing)&lt;br&gt;3.  No web client for non-Win32 clients.&lt;br&gt;4.  No Web Interface for non-IE Browsers, i.e. activeX only.&lt;br&gt;5.  Screen resolution limited to 1600x1200&lt;br&gt;6. No 32 bit color depth&lt;br&gt;7.  No bandwidth control (this is huge for companies connecting remote users over DSL or leased lines)&lt;br&gt;8.  No EMF based printing solution.  The TS Fallback driver works no better than driver mapping.  It's better than nothing, but doesn't support printers that aren't compatible with the specified fallback driver, i.e. HP DeskJet &amp;amp; OfficeJet printers using LIDIL.&lt;br&gt;9.  No unified management console. &lt;br&gt;10. No content redirection&lt;br&gt;11.  No application publishing (you get the full desktop, or one application, or RDP Files that all spawn a new session)&lt;br&gt;12.  No bidirectional audio&lt;br&gt;13.  No support for TWAIN Redirection&lt;br&gt;14.  RDP has horrible local drive redirection browsing speed, compared to ICA. (this is being addressed by MSFT, but no date for the fix as of yet)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Longhorn Server addresses a few of these, but many small or medum sized business need a few of these features.  Not many companies use all of the listed features, but most need at least one, if not 3-5 of these features.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There are plenty of alternatives to Citrix, i.e. Hoblink, Provision Networks Management Suite, Centrom Panther Server, wbisoft XPTS, Jetro CockpIT, 2X ApplicationServer &amp;amp; LoadBalancer... and many that address individual items.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a rel="nofollow" target="_new" href="&lt;a rel="nofollow" target="_new" href="http://www.sessioncomputing.com"&gt;http://www.sessioncomputing.com&lt;/a&gt;/add-on.htm"&gt;&lt;a rel="nofollow" target="_new" href="http://www.sessioncomputing.com"&gt;http://www.sessioncomputing.com&lt;/a&gt;/add-on.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;P.S.  I'd never recommend Citrix Presentation Server w/o knowing the actual requirements of the client, as the base Terminal Server product may fit the bill just fine.  There are however more times than not where a 3rd party add-on is &amp;quot;required&amp;quot;.  Unfortunately many consultants install terminal server for small &amp;amp; medium business w/o discussing TS' native limitations, which leaves a sour taste in the client's mouth when they're asked to spend a thousand bucks to add a feature they need.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Patrick Rouse&lt;br&gt;Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server&lt;br&gt;President - Session Computing Solutions, LLC&lt;br&gt;&lt;a rel="nofollow" target="_new" href="http://www.sessioncomputing.com"&gt;http://www.sessioncomputing.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://msmvps.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=84722" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Terminal Server or Citrix</title><link>http://msmvps.com/blogs/kwsupport/archive/2005/11/26/76762.aspx#79279</link><pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:03:45 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">d67277c4-116b-43f1-b688-e9ef184ea916:79279</guid><dc:creator>SbC</dc:creator><description>This is a consulting call. It all simply depends on the clients requirements.  If there is no need for true load balancing, publishing of applications instead of the entire desktop, support for anything other then Win32 clients - like linux, mac, etc, faster end user experience (sorry but the ICA protocol is much more streamlined then RDP (12 - 25KB per session), universal color printer driver at 600x600 dpi, scanning support, among many other advantages, then Citrix may not be for you.  I have been consulting in this area since the WinView/OS2 days and have found it a rare occasion where Citrix was not cost or feature justified.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Today, there is a packaged product called Access Essentials targeted for those small businesses that includes all the enterprise features (less Load Balancing - single server only) and it even includes your 2003 TSCALs for a very reasonable price. Further, it includes SSL/VPN technology that enables secure remote access from anywhere to all your line-of-business applications.  Licensing runs around $250 per seat with a max at 75 users.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes, RDP has come a long way and they continue to add features to it. But Citrix will always be a couple paces ahead of the game.  Note that Citrix and Microsoft are extremely strong partners with Citrix winning MS's Global ISV award just last year.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Just thought I would share an alternate point of view.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://msmvps.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=79279" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>