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Reader Questions: Round 3

Still a few more days to get your questions answered as a part of Media Center Week.  You guys have been doing great; I think we are over 100 comments just like this week!  Also, don’t forget to enter to win one of the Big Screen plug-in’s.  The winner will be chosen tomorrow night.

Q: I'm thinking of replacing my extenders with PC's so that I will have access to my DVD's through out the house without transcoding, etc.  I do push HD through the extenders now (All XBox 360s).  Also, I'm finding that my family is really using the Netflix WatchNow feature witch won't work on extenders.  So the question is this... Do you think the HP Pavilion Slimline series you describe above would get this done?

That will work, but of course understand that you lose the ability to have a central EPG that can be accessed throughout the house.  Also streaming of any protected content (CableCARD, CGMS-A) will not work.  You would also need local TV tuners in each machine if you ever want to watch live TV within Media Center.  If these don’t matter in your usage, then using something like the Slimline would work perfect.

Q:  Do you use media center extenders on a regular basis?

You bet!  I’ve mainly been using the Linksys DMA2100 and DMA2200 lately.  I love the DMA2100 the most.  It’s small enough that you can hide it anywhere, plus it is 100% silent.

Q: Any thoughts on advantages/disadvantages to Media Center vs. Sage TV or Beyond TV (if you have any).

At this point the advantages of Media Center vs. the competition are dwelling.  Sage is on the top of my list in Media Center competitors as they have hardware Extenders.  In my view, PCs have little to no place in the living room.  I want a silent CE device.  Both Sage and Beyond TV will support the HD-PVR which finally gives them HD in a respectable manor.  With Microsoft not likely to touch Blu-ray, the advantages of Media Center keep falling.  For the truly integrated experience, I think Microsoft will always rule.  Sage/Beyond/etc are not getting native tuners any time soon.  With the HD-PVR, that means less and less.  I think Microsoft really has to pick up the ball and finish connecting the home.  Xbox 360, Zune, Media Center, etc should all really work together.

Q: Is there any kind of Media Center plugin that will detect my cellphone via BlueTooth and display caller ID on screen?

I don’t believe so, but that’s a great idea that I haven’t heard before.  Maybe some developer is reading this and wants to take a stab at a plug-in?

Q: Does Vista Media Center support receiving the TV Schedule via DVB-T?

This is called using in-band EPG data, and no it doesn’t as far as I know.  Media Center will likely get it’s first taste of in-band EPG data usage with DVB-S tuners (like DIRECTV).  I hope this transitions to other sources, but the main factor generally seems to be how complete the in-band source is.  I know here in the US the quality of ATSC in-band data is hit or miss much of the time

Q: I am thinking about getting Vista x64 for my Media center machine. Will HDPC-20 support x64? I got 4GB and a dual core 2.4GHz and I hope that will be enough.

I don’t have anything official, so please don’t take it as that, but I would think the HDPC-20 (DIRECTV tuner) will support both 32-bit and 64-bit.

Published Thu, Apr 10 2008 19:29 by chrisl

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Chris,

Seems like MC still has some advantages vs. Sage etc using the Hauppauge.  With MC you can install two or more cablecard tuners (for cable only, no sat) from ATI and for relatively little per month from your cable co get dual tuner HD functionality with perfect channel changes.

With Sage and Hauppauge you would have to rent two HD cable boxes (lets assume the cost of two Hauppauge's is similar to the cost of two ATI cable card tuners).  Meaning maybe 2 x $8-$13 a month instead of 2-$5/month for the two cablecards (depending on your MSO).

And of course the STBs take space, and there may be somewhat imperfect channel changing depending how you change channels (can they do non-IR like firewire?)

Thursday, April 10, 2008 8:43 PM by Glenn

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Those are very true (and the reason I like native tuners over the HD-PVR), but for some the advantage of having unprotected HD content is worth the extra monthly fee for STBs.  Imagine finally being able to sync all your recordings with a Zune, iPhone, or other portable player.  Being able to extend the recordings to other PCs, being able to use things like WebGuide/Orb to stream it live, etc.

Native tuners are a big plus, but they come with big downsides too.

Thursday, April 10, 2008 9:03 PM by chrisl

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"With Sage and Hauppauge you would have to rent two HD cable boxes (lets assume the cost of two Hauppauge's is similar to the cost of two ATI cable card tuners).  Meaning maybe 2 x $8-$13 a month instead of 2-$5/month for the two cablecards (depending on your MSO)."

I only wish it were that simple. Everyone seems to conveniently forget to factor in the extra ~$1200 for the PC that you have to purchase in order to get/use the CableCard tuners. I already have a high-end Vista Media Center HTPC, so I don't need another one (perhaps if I could use the extra VMC PC as an MCE extender... but we know that won't happen :)).

So, when you compare the extra cost of buying a (likely overpriced) OEM PC to get/use the CableCards, against the extra cost of a couple of STBs, the Hauppauge HD-PVR plus STBs starts to look like a _really_ good deal.

Thursday, April 10, 2008 9:48 PM by CoupleOfPoints

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"I think Microsoft really has to pick up the ball and finish connecting the home.  Xbox 360, Zune, Media Center, etc should all really work together"

Good points Chris!

I would like to add Windows Home Server to that list. In a truely "media connnected" home, I would expect that the WHS would become a natural extension to the storage of an existing Media Center, Xbox 360, Zune, etc.

For example, "out of the box" (no 3rd party plug-ins) it should be simple for a MCE computer to find and store Recorded TV on a WHS. One should be able to add a Recorded TV Watched Folder on WHS the same way VMC allows it to be done on a local drive (a simple checkbox in a VMC configuration menu). There should also be basic built-in functionality for managing which Recorded TV shows go where (on VMC or on WHS).

With this most basic "connected home" functionality built-in to MCE/WHS, third party plug-ins can then extend and enhance for those looking for more flexibility/functionality. In a truely "connected home" solution, one should not have to add 3rd party plug-ins just to get the most basic "connected" part.

Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:06 PM by CoupleOfPoints

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The Bluetooth cellphone idea is brilliant!  

Friday, April 11, 2008 2:42 AM by anon

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The Bluetooth cellphone idea is great.

I went searching and found this: www.smithgear.com/itc-bt.html

If you run the phone cord to a modem, you could use the YAC client.

Friday, April 11, 2008 8:34 AM by Platup

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Regarding Bluetooth and CallerID, this is something I’ve been researching for a while and I believe you can do this NOW.  I haven’t been able to do/verify this personally yet because I haven’t put the money to it, but “in theory” (aka according to the manuals) it should work…

The Xlink Bluetooth Gateway (xlinkgateway.com) connects to your home phone system and pairs with cell phones via Bluetooth.  It allows you to park your cells in one place and you can send and receive cell calls through your home handsets (including cordless).  The Xlink reportedly supports CallerID so you should (once you’ve set up the Xlink) be able to pipe your home phone system into a compatible modem in your VMC machine and using a CallerID application like the one at VistaCallerID.com caller notifications should pop up inside of VMC.  VistaCallerID is still in beta but I tried it a while back with just my normal home phone system (without the Xlink) and it worked correctly, even on my 360 extender.

If anyone else can beat me to the punch and try this then please share your results.

Friday, April 11, 2008 8:54 AM by FirstSalvo

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I do have an application on my XP machine that will report the callerid via bluetooth with a opaque overlay. And that's only one of it's many features. http://www.salling.com

I haven't installed it on my Vista PC so I don't know if the overlay will display over a full screen VMC session, but it would be worth a try or message to the developer.

Monday, April 14, 2008 12:24 AM by David

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Just a quick question. I also love the

DMA2100 and they work well. I only have one issue. I cant change channel from them when watching live tv.... ??? Do you also have this issue ?

Tuesday, April 15, 2008 6:54 PM by Mike C