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Digital Cable Tuners (OCURs) Not Getting SDV Adaptor?

Now that CableLabs and TiVo have announced that they will have an adapter for Switched Digital Video (SDV) on one-way UDCP devices the question has been will the same adaptor (generally refered to as a Tuning Resolver) work with Media Center and OCURs (Digital Cable Tuners/DCTs)?  My first guess was ‘no’ as OCURs are not classified as UDCP devices by CableLabs.  However, OCURs do have a USB connection and can have their firmware updated, both of which are requirements for the adaptor to work.  So where does this leave the possibility of the SDV adaptor working with OCURs?

I’ve asked CableLabs about the issue and while I didn’t get an in-depth reply I did get that they are “working on a two-way solution” [BOCR] and have “not focused on the intermediate” adaptor method for OCURs.

The two-way solution should be BOCR which I have talked about in the past.  The BOCR specs have not been finished yet (or even publicly announced by CableLabs), so this solution is pretty far off.

Does this mean that the adapters will not work with OCURs though?  Clearly CableLabs is not focusing on it, but is there really anything stopping OCUR OEMs have adding support to their firmware?  I have my doubts that ATI/AMD will focus on it, but what about Ceton Corp?

Since Ceton is more focused on CableCARD products (basically all they do, unlike ATI/AMD) they might be the first ones add firmware support for the upcoming adaptor.  We will just have to wait and see if it happens, but we now know that CableLabs isn’t focused on using the adaptor with OCURs.

Note: I never got to my post on Ceton Corp MOCUR, but it is going to rule and will blow ATI’s OCUR out of the water.  It will include M-Card support and a wicked cool add-on card functionality for multiple tuners.  They will also have a BOCR when CableLabs gets around to finishing their side of things with the specs.

Published Friday, December 21, 2007 2:29 PM by chrisl

Comments

# re: OCURs Not Getting SDV Adaptor?

Any idea when the Ceton MOCURs will be hitting oems?

Friday, December 21, 2007 11:52 PM by Joshua Johnson

# re: OCURs Not Getting SDV Adaptor?

so does this mean that all of us who bought cable card pc's and ati tuners, that we will be out in the cold and have to buy new tuners to get to way support?

Saturday, December 22, 2007 12:01 PM by greg

# re: OCURs Not Getting SDV Adaptor?

Yes, it certainly sounds like people with current Digital Cable Tuners will be required to purchase new tuners, to get support.

If you live in an area where your cable co. is moving into SDV already, it sucks to be you - support is some time away, and you'll have to pay real money (definitely more than $150, at a guess) to get it when it becomes available.

(On the plus side, you should also get support for On Demand and PPV, which TiVo does not get with their SDV adapter.)

--Don

Saturday, December 22, 2007 5:36 PM by dondu

# re: OCURs Not Getting SDV Adaptor?

People that have current CableCARD Vista systems shouldn't really worry. Even the internal tuners are connected to their PC's using USB connections, so they will be able to easily swap them out for new tuners that support SDV.

Saturday, December 22, 2007 6:15 PM by Michael

# re: OCURs Not Getting SDV Adaptor?

The lack of a clear answer for SDV is the primary reason I'd never got with a Vista MCE for my primary setup. Tivo HD is the only option in the near term.

Sunday, December 23, 2007 9:20 AM by Scott

# re: OCURs Not Getting SDV Adaptor?

Nope - not gonna happen.  The TPM in the TCDs plus their closed architecture make it fairly secure.  

The PC most certainly won't be ready to go until 2009.  Cable labs makes these sorts of decisions, which are are as political as they are technological.  

Wednesday, January 02, 2008 5:09 PM by DRew

# re: OCURs Not Getting SDV Adaptor?

Will the MOCUR still require a PC with a Digital Cable Ready COA?  Will those of us with OCUR/ATI DCT just be able to upgrade to the MOCUR tuner comes out?  Or is it gonna require yet another special BIOS?

Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:48 AM by Don M