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Extender Combos with HD DVD/Blu-ray & IPTV Functionality?

v2 Extenders have yet to ship but it looks like Sigma Designs and Microsoft are working to get additional features out in the form of Extenders integrated into HD DVD and Blu-ray Disc Players, as well as IPTV set-top boxes (STB).

By now everyone should know that it is very likely the first v2 Extenders will use the Sigma Designs EM8622L reference design, which is supposed to allow rapid development and shipping of Media Center Extenders by cutting down the work the OEM has to do in order to get the finished product ready.

The next step up might be coming with the Sigma Designs SMP8630 processor.  The SMP8630 supports the same basic formats and outputs as the EM8622L (MPEG-2, MPEG-4 ASP/AVC, HDCP-HDMI, etc), but also features some additions geared toward HD DVD/Blu-ray playback and IPTV STB’s such as AACS support and the ability to use Windows CE for Microsoft’s IPTV platform (MediaRoom).

This means that your future HD DVD/Blu-ray Disc Player might just have Media Center Extender functionality built right in.  In addition, future Microsoft IPTV STBs could do the same which might be more of a benefit to those outside the US where more telcos currently have IPTV services deployed using Microsoft’s TV platform (some current boxes could get software upgrades to add the Extender feature too, just depends on the OEM).  Hopefully we will see some combo units out sometime next year, whether they are Sigma based or not.

With the format war between HD DVD and Blu-ray, much of the thought as to who will win is based on the price on the units.  While $300 is too much in my opinion for a standalone Extender, the value goes through the roof if I can get an HD DVD player that doubles as an Extender for the same.  Plus, in another four months or so the going price for HD DVD players should be around $150-$180 (currently HD DVD is from $220-$300 for the cheapest standalone) which is my prime price for a standalone Extender to start with.  Adding HD DVD playback for the same price would open my wallet, how about you?

Published Sat, Oct 13 2007 13:56 by chrisl

Comments

# re: Extender Combos with HD DVD/Blu-ray & IPTV Functionality?

If I could get an HD-DVD player with full extender capabilities for $300 I'd be all over that. Toshiba, etc. are you hearing me?

Saturday, October 13, 2007 5:36 PM by Zik

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Chris, I have to tell you, the whole media center experience has been wonderful for my family. We've found great value in the whole system, so much so that my wife is hooked on it and allows for all the new toys to enhance our experience. This kind of pricing is only gonna help my cause!

Sunday, October 14, 2007 12:33 AM by AARON SPICER

# re: Extender Combos with HD DVD/Blu-ray & IPTV Functionality?

Yes they should definitely be encouraging this as a lot of folk would love to replace their DVD/HTPC with an all in one HD capable solution.

Also Microsoft should really be talking to the TV makers as well like Samsung, LG or Toshiba especially Samsung and LG as they sell a lot of HDTV's in Europe. With extender functionality built in to the TV it would majorly increase the profile of Vista Media Center.

Sony might not be so keen on the idea as I think they have plans for their XMB interface to end up in their TV's, Philips could go either way.

Still Microsoft should be aggressively courting as many A/V components makers as possible to get extender functionality out there.

Sunday, October 14, 2007 4:54 AM by Fin

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Extender-related things I'd like to see...

-- Lower priced Extenders for basic functionality.  We already beat this to death in a previous thread.

-- An Extender product that is an integrated under-counter flip down LCD screen, for the kitchen.  This would totally r0x0r.

-- Some integrated solution for streaming DVD / HD-DVD / Blu-Ray content to Extenders.

Sunday, October 14, 2007 5:15 PM by dondu

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Yes I agree, this would open my wallet too!!

One other thing to throw in the mix. I have been looking at the new Pioneer A/V receivers (I want one as I understand it will decode the AC3 info in my WMV files just like my Xbox 360 does) and noticed that the flagship receiver has "Plays for Sure" and has a basic built-in on screen interface for pictures/music/movies over the network.

Would'nt this be perfect for an Extender. Couldn't Msoft get them to sign on. I mean, it cost money for Pioneer to develop their own interface, why not use Msofts already really nice one?

Just a thought

Rob

PS - Not to hijack, but if anybody knows how to get on the fly decoding of WMV audio to AC3 (like the 360 does) please let me know.

Monday, October 15, 2007 7:47 AM by Robert Lominski

# re: Extender Combos with HD DVD/Blu-ray & IPTV Functionality?

The new Xbox 360 Arcade Bundle that is going to be out soon for about 280 dollars with an HDMI output seems like a better deal still than the current extenders. However, it would be a compelling purchase if they had a HD DVD player integrated into an extender for $350 or less.

Tuesday, October 16, 2007 12:56 AM by AGross

# re: Extender Combos with HD DVD/Blu-ray & IPTV Functionality?

Yes. Yes. Just keep waiting and eventually we will have the feature set that Pika should have had at its announcement back in June of '06.

I know you waited for a year and a half for Pika to finnaly be released, and when it was, it was nothing like we promised. I know we artificially castrated CableCard, after years of promises. I know we forgot to integrate the BlueRay and HDDVD player interface into Vista Media Center.

But trust us on this. Our next batch of vaporware will be fantastic I promise, just look at our track record of servicing the group of enthusiasts who created this market space. Our actions prove just how much we love you DIYers.

Tuesday, October 16, 2007 11:03 AM by Wormhoudt

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not to involve myself in said hijack, but you are looking for a sound card that supports dolby digital live (encodes an decoded 5.1 audio to dolby digital and squirts it out through the spdif port).

Tuesday, October 16, 2007 11:07 AM by Wormhoudt