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DivX Connected: Round Two

I thought this was important enough to post for everyone to read.  A commenter named “bobby” had this to say about my thoughts on DivX Connected.

“Wow, I understand this is a supposed to be a personal option blog, but no one is fooled, this blog is part of M$ pathetic try at viral marketing.

That said I’m very impressed how M$ is bad mouthing a product they didn’t even have seen and used, is DivX Connected *that* threatening for them ?

So let’s recap, the DivX Connected device plays DivX (and Xvid, BTW, so you got access to 70%+ of the “content” people are interested in), it does play WMV and WMA and it is based on an open platform (hello, MKV, H264 and the rest…) I do not think that lack of file formats and codec support is going to be an issue.

Stage6 support is more, as I understand it, a demonstration of the capability of the API and the of online content possibility (full trick play support FYI)

As of the 100M hardware devices, I believe this is where it is hurting for M$, DivX did indeed shipped 100M CERTIFIED hardware devices, yes they work with low cost SoC and 3rd party partners, this is the whole point, DivX is not in the business of selling boxes, they are in the technology licensing business, and in that regard they did WAY better than you Mr. M$.

I think DivX did a great job in selecting their Beta users: you were not selected, and I do not believe you will receive a test unit either, you will have to go buy it in the stores, but I believe M$ as enough change, that shouldn’t be an issue.”

First of all bobby, I'd invite you to subscribe to my blog and read the posts.  As you will see below, you are clearly off base with much of your post.  I have provided examples dating back years to show this.

I have been on Microsoft for years about their choices with file format support.  Because of this, you will find dozens of postings from me about their stupid decisions to limit file format support to not include DivX and other MPEG-4 based codecs.  An example would be right here and here, and dozens of other posts that reference it.  I can provide you with dozens of examples, and I’m sure the rest of my readers could even provide you with links where I have said the same.

I've also been saying for years that DivX is continuing to grow in several respects, with Microsoft falling behind in several places (such as hardware support, where DivX is king).  DivX is far from “doing well” in my opinion, but in the hardware field it has been light-years above offerings by Microsoft.

I had also posted a bit of Microsoft bashing when Sean Alexander posted about DivX Connected (GejBox) back in June.  Oddly, the comments are no longer listed despite the fact Sean had several (Update:Archive.org showing 4 comments on the post).  To summarize, Sean is passing off DivX as a “offbeat MPEG-4 profile” when it clearly stays within MPEG-4 ASP and when Microsoft continues to develop new formats that don’t conform to existing standards.  You can't badmouth third parties when your own company is the king of "offbeat."

Back to DivX Connected, according to the Gizmodo post, it doesn't yet support other formats.   As I noted in the post from the start, it’s based off a pre-production device, and thus it can change.  Alexander pointed me to the third video which I said I didn’t watch where Mr Gej himself said it would support “DivX, Xvid, and a variation of MPEG-4... and Windows Media.”

Having said that, an "open platform" doesn't always mean that much.  There are several devices on the market today that are "open" and still don't support third party codecs and file formats.  I want to see native support, as I’ve talked about before I don’t believe in using transcoding for everything.  Allowing third parties to include support for other codecs and it happening are often to different things.

And yes, I agree the fact that 100 million devices is hurting Microsoft.  Microsoft should be contributing to that amount with supporting MPEG-4 ASP on the Xbox 360 and all future products (Zune, v2 Extender, etc).  I have been saying this for years.  Again, please read some of my other writings before you assume too much.

And yet again, I don't work for or represent Microsoft.  Feel free to read the clearly labeled "About Me" link off to the side.

(BTW, bobby if you are a masked DivX, Inc employee, I would ask if you would contact me directly and not hide behind a fake a name.  I'd love to chat and let you know what I think of DivX Connected.  If you are not a masked DivX, Inc employee please carry on and read what I have provided you).

Published Fri, Aug 24 2007 17:52 by chrisl

Comments

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Not for nothing but I thought the earlier post on was bashing a preproduction product and came off as a little harsh, though I definitely agreed with you on what's needed. For me it was more tone thing, and little winey about engaged getting one and not you ;).

Hell if MS is not ever going to step up and offer folks real codec support on the 360 -> MCE combo then I'm willing to keep shopping the market. God you would think that we where not paying customers they way MS acts.

First company who lets me truly choose providers  gets the gold ring. I want one frigging central box in the garage collecting my HD and SD sources regardless of vendor (cable, SAT, IPTV), that I can them stream anywhere in my house via extenders, or computers. I also want to store and access my videos (98% in divx though I'm starting to use h.264 instead now), my phtots and music (which I have a lot of both).

Boggles my mind that we don't have this today (at least not with vender piped HD)

*sigh* maybe somebody will do something cool with the ms home server stuff, but the MCE folks just don't seem to be wiling to fight the good fight for the users aka their customers... to busy chasing those MPAA super models I guess...

Friday, August 24, 2007 8:06 PM by Griffon

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Griffon: "Not for nothing but I thought the earlier post on was bashing a preproduction product and came off as a little harsh, though I definitely agreed with you on what's needed. For me it was more tone thing, and little winey about engaged getting one and not you ;)."

I feel like I run into this often.  Either I need to cover the good and bad of every product, or posts on how to improve/change/whatever those specific products are basically seen as trolling.

Friday, August 24, 2007 8:27 PM by chrisl

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There are not too many people that would accuse Chris of being bias :). Some people see a thorough take of a product as a bash session. I see it as constructive critizism that companys need to perfect a product. We aren't here to bring down the connected media community.. but instead to provide an open forum in which to discuss products and ideas.. we are all just after the "perfect platform"

Friday, August 24, 2007 8:56 PM by Alan

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First, I think this is one of the more open Microsoft centric blogs I read. If Microsoft needs slapped upside the head, they get it.

Second, anyone who insists on using "M$" when refering to Microsoft is just another idiot that likes to bash Microsoft for sport and really has no clue (they usually just cut and paste the same stuff over and over again).

Saturday, August 25, 2007 4:46 PM by Roy J. Salisbury