Don't approve KB917013

re: Don't approve KB917013

Bruce M — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:10:51 GMT

re: Chris Knight

The problem was that it showed up on users desktops like a normal deployment from our WSUS (when it was not approved in WSUS), therefore users installed it, bringing Exchange to a near halt while it indexed the Public Folders....

re: Don't approve KB917013

Chris Knight — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 00:21:43 GMT

What's the problem?

It's classified as an "Update", not a "Security Update" or a "Critical Update". Which means it should not be Auto-approved in WSUS

Honestly, if you auto-approve anything other than Critical and Security Updates, then expect nonsense like this on a regular basis. Updates need testing before deploying, just like Service Packs.

re: Don't approve KB917013

TK — Fri, 26 Oct 2007 10:45:13 GMT

Microsoft installing software that is detrimental to the operation of a private computer system in ANY way without implied or explicit consent smacks of being in breach of Section 3 of the British Computer Misuse Act 1990

www.legislation.gov.uk/.../ukpga_19900018_en_1

Any large corporation in the UK that has been significantly affected by this assult on their network care to press charges and apply for extradition of the MS managers that ordered this assult on our servers?

re: Don't approve KB917013

Tron — Fri, 26 Oct 2007 03:36:51 GMT

I'm no attorney; but, to me, this seems to break Florida statutes 815.xx "Offenses against Intellectual Property".

Fla. Stat. 815.04 Offenses against Intellectual Property

Whoever willfully, knowingly, and without authorization modifies data, programs, or supporting documentation residing or existing internal or external to a computer, computer system, or computer network commits an offense against intellectual property.

Fla. Stat. 815.05 Offenses against Computer Equipment or Supplies

Whoever willfully, knowingly, and without authorization modifies equipment or supplies used or intended to be used in a computer, computer system, or computer network commits an offense against computer equipment or supplies.

Fla. Stat. 815.06 Offenses against Computer Users

Whoever willfully, knowingly, and without authorization accesses or causes to be accessed any computer, computer system, or computer network; or whoever willfully, knowingly, and without authorization denies or causes the denial of computer system services to an authorized user of such computer system services, which, in whole or part, is owned by, under contract to, or operated for, on behalf of, or in conjunction with another commits an offense against computer users.

re: Don't approve KB917013

Gary Karasik — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 23:55:15 GMT

It surprises me that people are surprised to find Microsoft acting like Microsoft. You know that old tale about the snake that offers to carry the frog across the river, then in the middle of the river, prepares to eat the frog? The frog says, "But you promised not to eat me." The snake says, "Yes, I know, but I'm a snake."

The US let them off the hook on the anti-trust suit. The EU didn't.

The real problem in my view is not so much that Microsoft will install software on our systems without our knowledge. The real problem is that they CAN install things on our system without our knowledge. This then is the real reason they don't provide a truly secure OS. If they did, then they'd be locked out too.

GaryK

re: Don't approve KB917013

Boon Tee — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 22:21:40 GMT

Too late! Is there a way to take it back before client PCs install it?

re: Don't approve KB917013

Tony — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:15:59 GMT

And if there is one thing I absolutely don't want Microsoft doing at all is to install any search tools whatsover!

Whoever has installed and uses Vista knows what I mean when I say that Microsoft <does not> know how to write search applications anymore, does not understand the consequences of uncontrolled indexing and somehow seems to have completely ignored, forgotten or even worse maybe doesn't care about running such processes at lower priority levels so become background services.

re: Don't approve KB917013

sproket90 — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:17:07 GMT

hmmm... that kind of goes against the mantra of patch patch patch...

once again MS makes Admin look like idiots in the eyes of their customers....

re: Don't approve KB917013

Eric Louie — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:56:04 GMT

If you've been affected, the Windows Desktop Search update can be uninstalled in Add/Remove Programs, and I'm certain that a script on the server could also remove it from any affected domain-attached workstation client. Prevention of a repeat download may not be as easy, however.