[There's a reason that Yoda is the unofficial mascot of SBS.  Size indeed matters not.] A blogging project - THE OFFICIAL BLOG OF THE SBS DIVA
Tue, Jan 7 2014 22:29 bradley

A blogging project

It's a new year, out with the old, in with the new proof of concept blogging series.

Currently I have SBS 2008 in my office.  Why haven't I upgraded?  Couple of reasons.  First one, if it ain't broke... yeah you know how that goes.  Migrations to new platforms have to offer new and better features or the same as, there's no need to do change merely for change sake.  And then most of us do migrations when the hardware ages out.  And mine is about a year away from that. 

One of the reasons I moved from the SMB MVP category over to Security in fact was that it didn't feel honest to be representing a product and obviously not believing in it enough to not have my firm deployed on it. 

Going forward we have options.  Migrate to SBS 2011 (already bought and paid for), or migrate to Essentials and hosted email, or migrate to Essentials and on premises Exchange.  The path to SBS 2011 is well documented and known.  The path to Essentials feels less so, at least to me.   So I'm going to blog my way through a proof of concept of migration from a SBS 2008 to Essentials and premises Exchange as well as a hosted option.  At the end of this bloggy process I'm going to put all of my notes and Susanisms from these blog posts into a Word document... but it will only be offered to SMBkitchen subscribers.  (more info here:  https://www.thirdtier.net/enterprise-solutions-for-small-business/ ) Amy Babinchak is documenting the big picture consultant thought processes.  We're wrapping up the year of the SMBkitchen project and I figured to go out with a bang.

So fasten your seat belts and here we go...

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# re: A blogging project

Wednesday, January 08, 2014 4:24 PM by IT

Hi Susan,

If you are playing around with some tests, you should have a try of migrating to a single server with Windows Server 2012r2 standard AND exchange 2013 installed on it - then enable the essentials role. It actually works fine with all this on one box in the lab. It's Dr. Frankensteins SBS Server 2013

In theory this saves big for the ultra tight fisted clients since all the extra costs associated with the 3 server system (hyper-v host + 2 guest servers) are gone.  It allows the use of the built in windows server backup to USB disk (save over $1000+ on a 3rd party backup system), one antivirus license instead of three (save $100 per year), one monitoring client license instead of three (save $1000 per year). etc.

Give it a try on your lab machine for fun.

# re: A blogging project

Wednesday, January 08, 2014 4:30 PM by bradley

And every time I have a problem with Exchange someone in CSS will point at that Exchange on a DC and say "we don't recommend that".

Sorry, Exchange shouldn't be on a DC and sorry if the Exchange team doesn't have the guts to come out definitely state in black and white what they say in private.

# re: A blogging project

Wednesday, January 08, 2014 4:31 PM by bradley

P.S. sorry for the tude but Exchange team's attitude kinda rubs off and makes me grumpy.

# re: A blogging project

Wednesday, January 08, 2014 4:37 PM by bradley


This really doesn't save much.  I don't use a third party backup - I use native and pass through USB, I don't put antivirus on servers and certainly not on the HyperV parent, and I use eventsentry.com to alert me ($1,000 per year for monitoring three servers?)

So I'm still a tight fisted client.