[There's a reason that Yoda is the unofficial mascot of SBS.  Size indeed matters not.] Dave Seibert reporting from the WPC - THE OFFICIAL BLOG OF THE SBS DIVA
Mon, Jul 9 2012 22:10 bradley

Dave Seibert reporting from the WPC

From the comment section of Karl Palachuk's blog:

http://blog.smallbizthoughts.com/2012/07/microsoft-announced-end-of-sbs.html?showComment=1341845462578#c1439209146696818260
We had a Microsoft WW SMB PAL meeting yesterday in Toronto at WPC.

For this msg I'm going to try to leave out my feelings of SBS or SBSC going away and about how the news was annouced by Microsoft to the channel. Instead allow me to focus on a few items I learned today that I wanted to share.

- Windows Server 2012 Essential is indeed the new solution for small businesses. Now being defined as 1-25 employees.
- Mid-Market by Microsoft is now being defined as 26-250 users.
- W12 Essential is a similar code base as the regular server line. As such, it can be increased beyond 25 users through a "script" that removes its 25 user limit. And without any migration or conversion. Something that SBS never had the ability to do.
- This script (actually a license upgrade tool) will be released along with 2012 Essential release. It's pricing has not be announced yet
- SBS will continue to be sold through June 2013, Dec 2013, and 5+ years depending on licensing models like VL, OEM, and embedded. I should have a date table shortly to share.
- Existing SBS family Service Packs will continue per Microsoft normal end of life or approx 5 years.
- It is supported to run W12 Essentials under a W12 Standard Hyper-V configuration with Exchange Standard running along side it. Hence, a close configuration as to what SBS is today.
- It will be posible to standup a new W12 Essential server for say 40 users by installing it and then running the "sales/license script" to lift its initial 25 user limit. You can do this at any time. The features of Essential server will remain while the user limit will be lifted and it will function like that of Windows Standard (including gaining the features of Windows Standard).
-It will no longer require an understanding of (all) the "SBS Wizards" to admin the server but rather the W12 family of servers will function similarly. Hence, an ease of product development and future server tech learning.

I'll add to the list above once they provide us some due folllow up docs.


Dave Seibert
IT Innnovators

Dave is on the ground at the WPC getting the latest from the floor.  More as it comes in.  And remember we'll be doing our webcast tomorrow at 6 p.m. pacific and it will be recorded.  http://www.thirdtier.net/2012/07/webinar-future-of-small-business-it/

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# re: Dave Seibert reporting from the WPC

Tuesday, July 10, 2012 5:58 AM by David

"will no longer require an understanding of (all) the 'SBS Wizards'".

What marketing.

Some might say that it is too bad the wizards were not carried into the whole server line; built into Windows to make life easier.

The wizards really complicated things, didn't they? (Hint of sarcasm.)

I came from big server land and did have to learn to keep my fingers off and let the wizards work. But I came to depend on those wizards and will miss them. (And don't call me lazy!)

# re: Dave Seibert reporting from the WPC

Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:27 AM by it adminz

Mid-Market 26-250 users, lol... Really what is MS thinking?

How do you try to justify to a business with 30 users that IT costs have now went up ~70% to do what they are doing now?

1 server running SBS 2011 w/30CAL ~ $9k for hardware, $2500 for SBS 2011 w/Exchange and Sharepoint, Total cost ~$11500...

Now what is the new solution to this?

Only solution now is, 3 vm's W12 Servers, 1 - DC, 1- Exchange , 1- Sharepoint...

Cost W12 Standard $882 (only 2 instances) so add another $882, plus the 30CAL's for W12 ~ $3000, and 30 Exchange CAL's ~ $2300

Total Cost ~ $7064

So, $7064 vs $2500 in software costs how can you justify that?

Plus the extra cost in Hardware to run these VM's...

I don't get it.

# re: Dave Seibert reporting from the WPC

Tuesday, July 10, 2012 11:50 PM by James Feldman

I'll be dropping Exchange for all my small biz clients with those license costs.  

I plan to run W12E with Kerio Connect on the same box, and the Transmogrification pack to up the license count.  Could be even cheaper and easier to support.

# re: Dave Seibert reporting from the WPC

Tuesday, July 24, 2012 7:41 PM by EricE

So does this mean Essentials will be able to back up more than 25 workstations?  They didn't drop that from the product too?

Ugh...

# re: Dave Seibert reporting from the WPC

Tuesday, July 24, 2012 7:46 PM by bradley

Client backup is still included and if you transmorg the product, would support more than 25.