[There's a reason that Yoda is the unofficial mascot of SBS.  Size indeed matters not.] So what is the SBS community really? - THE OFFICIAL BLOG OF THE SBS "DIVA"
Wed, May 24 2006 18:31 bradley

So what is the SBS community really?

It all started when the SBS folks posted up their community survey...
and it got me thinking about "What is Community anyway?"
(and if you haven't filled it out .. please do)

 

<update - Vlad's point/counterpoint is here>

 

Is it full of nothing but SBS vars and vaps?  Is it partially filled with
onsite sysadmins that should be hiring a consultant?  It's it
nothing
but DIYers installing it at home?  And should there be b
arriers and fences
between each group?

 

Or maybe it's a place.. a watering hole where maybe..just maybe...every
now and then each part of a community needs to turn around and
look
to see who is standing next to them.  The SBS community these

days that I'm seeing isn't just from America, isn't just from North America
even.  It isn't just vars and vaps and partners.  It isn't

just DIYers and admins.  It isn't just Enterprise folks coming down

from big server land or folks entering in the Technology marketplace.

But sometimes, all of these community members need to understand that

at the end of the day all of us have the same goal in mind.  To make

technology affordable and easier for the small business person.

 

There's been a couple of times in the last month I've been pinged via

the blog by an admin who is looking for a smidge more hand holding.

They are the onsite IT pro for the office.  But they couldn’t find a

SBSer.  So they are coming out into a community to find someone to

help them.


But this reminds me of a continuing thread I have with someone...do we

need barriers in community?   Do fences make good neighbors? Should

community embrace everyone that comes in the door?  Or should there be

better fences between the types of community members we have out here?

There are a lot of sociologists out there that write books and stuff on

online communities.. and while they don't specifically look at the SBS

community there's some interesting stuff to think about when it comes to the
SBS community.

 

1.  Lack of barriers

For one, all you have to do to 'join' the SBS community is have an

email address.  So that welcome wagon approach means that partners

mingle with newbies... and newbies mingle with DIYers...and those who

have been around the SBS groups a long time have to answer many of the

same questions.

 

2.  Should we embrace all?

The other day someone was joking with me that I wanted to "save" or

"convert everyone to the religion of SBS" and I'll admit it I'm

practically an Aimee Semple McPherson wanting to bring all into the

SBS fold.  Why?  Because I don't want to see the 'real customer' of

SBS be hurt by a bad install.  So I'll want to embrace folks that are

newbies.. or embrace folks that are DIYers ... or embrace folks who

think they can do it ...and if need be guide them into books and help

and support and even consultants when they are over their heads.  But

I'd rather not turn anyone away.   Some folks have said to me that if

you haven't read a single SBS book or deployed a single SBS server you

don't deserve help.  And the one side of me agrees with that.  There

are honestly times that folks come into the newsgroup that are

obviously partners and var/vaps and say "so some patch installed on my

clients boxes yesterday" and it makes by blood boil.  First off if a

patch came down "yesterday" that's not a patch Tuesday event.. as this

isn't Patch Tuesday week.. and secondly ..someone is counting on you

to know what you can about that SBS box and I don't think that

customer deserves anything less than a person who at least can google,

or at least can look up something at www.eventid.net.  If you hold

yourself out as a SBS consultant... don't you have the responsibility

to that customer to at least try?

 

3.  Should community be considered better training and education than

a certification? Steve Riley has a credential.  NFC.  "No fine

certifications" is what it is.. of course I have a feeling that "fine"

may be a little stronger than that... but it points out the "BTDT"

credential of the community.  "Been there, Done that" is the best

teacher.  Yeah you get beat up a bit with it... but it sure is the

best teacher of all.  Trying something, doing something, you learn

TONS more than a book, hands down.  Books give you a foundation, but I

would argue that books and training are just that.  A foundation.

Nothing beats real world experience in my opinion.

 

4.  Should community be so patient and understanding that the

community member can't even take the first step?

Obviously you can see where I'm going with this one before I even

flesh it out.  Hands down if you want the best community help you have

to at least play along.  You have to google search (okay for the benefit
of the MSers reading this.. how about
Windows Live search?).  You have to try

to post a good question and showcase that you are willing to try.  If

you can't even google...then maybe you should step back and hire

someone to do the job for you.  And pay this person, because otherwise

you are asking a volunteer to help you and you probably won't 'pay it

back'.   And that's truly what the SBS community is all about.

There's an expectation to 'pay it forward/pay it back'. Just on today's
webcast, an innocent question sort of struck me funny... the poster asked
if Tim Barrett could post his exact instructions on how to set up
MOM monitoring and reporting of SBS servers. I mean like Tim is
generous of his time and energy..but that took him time... and sometimes
maybe we go too far around here and don't value our own time because
we give it away so freely? But conversely I know that when I teach
I learn tons more in the process.

 

5.  Should we be aware that Community isn't just yahoogroups, it isn't

just newsgroups, it isn't just partners, and it's a lot more cosmic

than we think.  There's not the hard and fast boundaries anymore in

this 24/7 Internet connected world.  It's everywhere.  And I may be

the "SBS Diva" over on this plot of the information superhighway..but

on the freeway just a few miles over...there's quite possibly another

vibrant community that has these circles of communication surrounding it.

 

I was reminded of this today by a blog post

http://blogs.technet.com/stig_nerland/archive/2006/05/23/429841.aspx

about a SBS web site... yes the domain name is very much like

www.smallbizserver.net but it's a new community that I don't know, I

don't speak the language, but that doesn't mean that they aren't a SBS

community just as important and just as needing of attention.

 

I'm certainly not the only SBS customer, and each member of the SBS

community in their own way serves a vibrant and vital role to

play...but each of us are not the 'only voice' of the SBS community.

We're like one large community chorus...or a quilt made up of many

different fabrics.

 

So what happens in the SBS community?  You have this cocktail party

that the mingling guests are a mixture of oldbies and newbies.  Is

that the best thing to do for a good community? Will oldbies tune out

dealing with the issues of the newbies?  Should those that are uber

SBSers (aka Partners) carve out a bit of community to themselves and

not interact with other members of community?

 

It's hard isn't it?

 

SBS has always had this weird multi headed beast of a thing called

"Community".  To this day .. even though as JeffM would say.. "I'm not

your normal DIYer" ...sort of like Dana is not your "normal SBSer", I

still feel that I represent that role.  Why?  Because I still see

those folks coming into community representing themselves as "uber"

SBSers from the MS Partner ranks and sometimes they are not.  And boy

can they learn some things from the not so 'uber' SBSers.

 

Does each 'type of community member' need to understand that community

is just where a bunch of people who like to talk about SBS get

together.  Should better fences be built?

 

I don't know.  But to me community can't just be a single type.  Look

at our cities and towns and countries.  Diversity is a good thing.  It

brings differing viewpoints to the table.  It lets you see different

perspectives and not a tunnel view of things.

 

One of my sayings in Technology is that you have to do a "To kill a

Mockingbird" view.  You know... you have to walk in the shoes of the

other person.. stand on his porch, turn around and look at his view of

the world.

 

It's funny isn't it?  We don't want Microsoft to silo.  But should the

community?  We're all fabric on the same community quilt, right?
Aren't we? Can't we learn from one another? And don't I always say
that when I teach I learn more in the process?

 

But maybe the real test of a good community member is a happy SBS

box.. or a happy SBS customer. Maybe that's the criteria we should
use in our 'benchmark'. Remember we always do say to ensure when
finding an "SBSer" you ask him or her how many SBS boxes they've
installed.....'cause at the end of the day.. isn't that everyone's goal?

 

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# re: So what is the SBS community really?

Wednesday, May 24, 2006 9:27 PM by Amy

Gated communities are not for me. I may not like all of my neighbors but I comfortable in this town.

But the availability of really good infomation on the individual technologies is important. I need good in depth information on each of the technologies contained within SBS. Maybe SBS is no longer a community but is rather a thriving huge city with various types of communities within it.

# re: So what is the SBS community really?

Wednesday, May 24, 2006 10:28 PM by Vlad Mazek

I take responsibility for prompting this encyclopedia entry in Susan's blog. We have had this argument going back and forth for months. For me, it boils down to our responsibility as IT Professionals not to empower the wrong people to pursue a career they are broadly unqualified for.

My points are here:
http://www.vladville.com/2006/05/is-the-sbs-community-a-good-substitute-for-training.html

Please take a moment to read it. Hope our blogoffs are entertaining you :)

-Vlad

# re: So what is the SBS community really?

Thursday, May 25, 2006 7:47 AM by Jason J. Thomas

I come to the world of SBS after spending the last 6 years in a heterogeneous enterprise environment. I managed NetWare, Windows, and the occasional Linux server for a large academic institution. About a year ago was my introduction to SBS, which tends to throw everything that enterprise admins learn on its ear.

That said, I agree with what Vlad is saying. A community is no substitute for training, but it is a valuable resource when dealing with something "in the trenches" or if you are looking to make sure that you have crossed all of your "t's" and dotted all of your "i's". I read documentation quite well, but I will admit to wanting to get another opinion before moving forward with something. I have to admit to appreciating hearing the experiences of others.

Now, keep in mind that I do not have any formal certification--no MCSE, CNA, etc. I do have the experience I have and in-depth work with systems. As a matter of fact, I know more about IMAP mail than anyone should ever be allowed to know. (If you want to bore yourself, go read an RFC. Good times.) Nonetheless, experience and training are key, and a community is there for mutual support.

It's not fair to those of us who are professionals to be used as a simple resource for the person who is the computer-savvy guy at the office. I would make the argument, though, that in like any community, participation is optional. You can live in a community and make a point from time to time, but it is not incumbent upon you to be an activist.