[There's a reason that Yoda is the unofficial mascot of SBS.  Size indeed matters not.] How do you buy CALs? - THE OFFICIAL BLOG OF THE SBS DIVA
Wed, Jul 20 2005 13:15 bradley

How do you buy CALs?

Rob from the mailbox asks “How does one buy CALs?”  Where do you buy them?  Do they come on paper?  In an email?  How long does the process take?”

If you buy your CALs from an OEM, there are boxes on the web site to specify that you need SBS CALs right on the web site.  If you need to buy licenses after the fact you can go through many places like licenseonline.com or softwareone.com.  Once you purchase the license, a piece of paper will be sent to you that has the product key code that you then enter into the SBS box normally in a week or so [so plan accordingly]

If ...however.. you have Open License based software because you purchased the base of SBS via open license you will get a electronic agreement that gets entered into the eopen.microsoft.com web site.  Your CAL codes will be up there.

Even better yet, if you opt for Software Assurance [and go for the three year plan] not only will your CAL codes be up there, but you'll get all your SBS media sent to you automagically.  [Like I have slipstreamed SBS media that has SP1, whereas OEM can't get this]

So for your clients.... sit them down...talk to them about how an OEM purchase may NOT be the way to go.  Check out the Open license sales opportunities on www.mssmallbiz.com resource page and then go through an outsourced licensing specialist.

OEM may not be the bargain you think it is.  Like Office 2003 on Software Assurance for example gives me Home User Rights and allows me to be a lot more flexible.  I normally use a mixture of Office on OEM and SA to fit my needs.  For the server though, it's 100% open license with software assurance. 

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# OEM and SA

Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:26 AM by bradley

Hi susan...

Are you aware that OEM Office can have SA added to it? This is by *FAR* the most cost effective way to get clients onto SA.... new PC's... OEM Office... and the SA for Office added to the OEM....

And then... are you aware you can do the same with SBS? You can buy OEM SBS2003... and then add SA to it.... again... pretty cost effective...

You can in fact do this for most MS products... I have a document on the subject somewhere but recently spoke to the UK MS Licensing manager and she confirmed that my information was correct...

Mark.

# re: How do you buy CALs?

Thursday, July 21, 2005 5:18 AM by bradley

Mark - you can but there is a time limit for doing so. In order switch to SA it pretty much has to be a mistake that your ordered the OEM the time frame is so short.

Microsoft should do away with OEM period. This would make licensing so much less confusing for everyone.

# re: How do you buy CALs?

Thursday, July 21, 2005 11:15 PM by bradley

Thanks for the great info, Susan, you're a gem!

I've heard mixed reports on getting license keys by paper, email, or disk, including that SBS is different than other products which can be emailed. It's like the vendors aren't even totally sure.

My order this week was snailmailed paper keys. (..Which would have been nice to have right away by email -- 13 users on the first 5 CALs causes "Access Denied" issues pretty fast. Yes, the client guessed at their SBS setup. Ugh, cleanup crew stinks!)

Now I just need to fix my (already activated!) Device-CALs-which-should-be-User-CALs problem (mistake courtesy of a middleman; hence my research on how to DO IT MYSELF in the future).

# re: How do you buy CALs?

Friday, July 22, 2005 2:19 AM by bradley

Hi Amy...

Not sure I follow your arguement...

You buy OEM and then add SA to it as long as you buy the SA within 90days I think....

And anyway... why would you ever buy the OEM without buying the SA at exactly the same time? I dont sell my clients OEM Office and then go back 2 months later and sell them SA...

I sell it as a complete solution and buy it all at the same time...

And OEM is great for one reason.... it's a lot cheaper than Open... I dont want my clients to pay any more than they have to for microsoft most expensive product...

Whenever I sell SME clients complete solutions (new server, new PC's, etc)... the killer part of any quote is Office... EVERY time... and to really kill the whole thing off... just add SA to the pot...

At least OEM with SA lets me soften the blow a bit...

Mark.