[There's a reason that Yoda is the unofficial mascot of SBS.  Size indeed matters not.] Carpe Migration... seize the roles! - THE OFFICIAL BLOG OF THE SBS DIVA
Fri, Jan 28 2005 0:32 bradley

Carpe Migration... seize the roles!

P.S.  One caveat... for the newbies in the crowd, call up a Microsoft partner {PREFERABLY A SBSIZED ONE} to help you in this OR ANY migration.  And another thing.. we don't call them BDC's in the 2000 AD world... just a heads up... I've given up trying to correct anyone on that point because folks are still stuck in an NT mindset and call them BDCs.

From the mailbox today comes this question:

I've read some of your Blog regarding SBS2K3 and I'm interested in deploying it my company. But still abit hesitant because of the limitations 'imposed' by SBS2k3.  [my comments:  you see limits... I see ... in fact, I KNOW I have possibilties]


I am encourage by the fact that you guys have done it.  [not just me, many of us]


Though I would like to get your expert advice I'm considered newbie in terms of Server Administration. [that's okay we're all newbies]


Anyways currently i have two Win2k Server one is a PDC that serves as AD and file & print server and the other is my BDC which server as IIS and other stuff.
I would like to know what is the best solution?...


Well planning to get SBS2k3 because of all its functionality and price.
  [don't blame you]


1. Is it possible if I upgrade my AD to SBS2k3? [yup]


2. Setup a new machine as SBS2k3 and join the 2 win2k servers. [yup that too - it's called siezing [or preferably transfering] the FSMO roles but it's more like “they“ are joining the SBS box]


Hope you could give me some thoughts and ideas about this would appreciate it alot.


The key element to remember here is that SBS 2003 has to be the PDC and hold all the primary FSMO [weed gunk] roles of the network.  As long as you keep that in mind you can slide in a SBS 2003 box, with no problem.  So what options do we have when migrating from ___ to ____.

Windows NT - Thank gawd you are killing it off to SBS 2003

SBS 2000 OR Windows 2000 to SBS 2003

SBS 2003 to SBS 2003 [upgrading for new equipment because you found you REALLY like SBS]

Do you get the idea we can go from point A to point B in a variety of ways these days?


A poster in the newsgroup said that he installed a SBS box for a 2 person firm so that the doctor could sync with a smart phone device, share calendars, and he couldn't do it without a server.  Conversely we have lots of places where SBS is the root of a multi server network. I've just moved to that position where I have multiple servers.

So Carpe Migration, Seize [transfer] the Roles!


Sorry folks.. one more edit.....

Read also the follow up blog post Migration Sucks, because well... it just does.  All this post is trying to do is let people know there ARE options, some official Microsoft santioned, some not.  Just take the time to READ the documents.  This MORE THAN ANY OTHER PROCESS YOU DO, needs “read time” to understand this process.

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# re: Carpe Migration... sieze the roles!

Friday, January 28, 2005 1:58 AM by bradley

Thanks your very much for the info. It's all clear now...
I will do it, I know I can!!

# re: Carpe Migration... seize the roles!

Friday, January 28, 2005 12:46 PM by bradley

Hey Susan,

Since we can not get them to quit calling them BDC's we just need to redefine BDC to something else such as Big Daddy Computer.

Solving your problems one little click at a time :>)
HA

# Migration just sucks, let's face it

Friday, January 28, 2005 9:13 PM by TrackBack

# re: Carpe Migration... seize the roles!

Thursday, February 10, 2005 8:09 AM by bradley

We have SBS2003 and its great, but now I am about to add a Win 2K server into the domain. Ideally we need Exchange on that box too, is it possible to have a full version of Exchange on the Win 2K server and it work with Exchange in SBS 2003?

# re: Carpe Migration... seize the roles!

Friday, February 11, 2005 12:40 AM by bradley

Why the two Exchanges?

# re: Carpe Migration... seize the roles!

Tuesday, May 31, 2005 2:43 PM by bradley

I am trying to migrate from a Windows 2000 SBS over to a Windows 2003 Server (basic) and A Exchange Server 2003 Basic, I am having a heck of time getting the new server set up, to discover that you are not supose to have an exhcnage server and Domain controller on the same Server, but I do. Now I need to move all my users over. But from the looks I might have been able to install the new server up on the existing domain and just move all the users and such over to the new domain contoller then demoting the SBS (2000) and I would be done?