This month's Microsoft FU awards...

Posted Wed, Nov 21 2007 12:57 by bill

Despite VB being the *most popular* language on .NET, many teams over at Microsoft like to give VB the finger.  But before I start on this month's FU awards, a big anti-fu award (aka kudos) goes to Don Box who said :
"I'd be an idiot not to walk in their shoes as much as possible"

Sadly, other teams at Microsoft still don't get that.  So onto the FU list of shame for this month:

  • First mention just has to go to the XNA team.  Their continual bigotry is outstanding
     
  • The Windows Workflow Foundation Hosting Quickstart Sample comes in at second place, delivering only C# templates.  Well it's not like anyone who writes in VB would want templates for that now is it ?
     
  • A contender for equal first place is the Windows Media Centre SDK team who sends out a very big FU to all you wanting to code in VB.  They must figure media centre is too advanced for VB folk
     
  • The Health SDK team only gets a minor mention this month as they release new downloads but still haven't included VB samples even after being requested to.  Eric won the previous month's FU arrogance award.
     
  • Arguably the number one spot has to go to the Visual Studio SDK team.  They've released the 2008 SDK again with no VB samples for Controls, Debugger, DSL tools, Project or Team System Test.  Like 2005 we'll probably have to wait 2 or 3 years till version 4 is released before they even think about releasing the VB samples as a separate download. Way to go team !!
      

So to this month's top five FU award winners, congratulations !   I salute you with my middle finger.

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# This month's Microsoft FU awards...

Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:15 PM by Windows Vista News

Did you see this post at msmvps.com

# re: This month's Microsoft FU awards...

Wednesday, November 21, 2007 1:55 AM by Jonathan Allen

Are you sure about the VS 2008 SDK? I'm looking at it right now and I see a lot of samples in VB. Not as many as C#, but far more than C++.

# re: This month's Microsoft FU awards...

Wednesday, November 21, 2007 1:56 AM by Jonathan Allen

Never mind, I misread what you wrote.

# re: This month's Microsoft FU awards...

Wednesday, November 21, 2007 4:37 PM by Michael Lyons

With XNA, have you said you want support for VB.Net over at connect? connect.microsoft.com/.../sitehome.aspx

Pete Isensee from the XNA team said the other day that the team check it all the time and reports goes straight into their bug tracker.

The team has said once before "We are very aware of how important it is to support VB as a programming language for XNA Game Studio. We are actively working hard with the VB team to establish the right level of support and timeframe to add VB support so lose hope!"

Game Studio 2 Beta was also released the other day and it now supports all the different flavours of VS2005.

creators.xna.com/.../betahome.aspx

I'm also looking forward to support for VB in Games Studio.

# re: This month's Microsoft FU awards...

Saturday, November 24, 2007 8:29 PM by bill

Hi Michael,

We both know the XNA team is aware of how important it is to have support for VB, but yet they continue to NOT support it.  The issue was raised with them after the very first release, and they then promised on the next release, yet Game Studio 2 does not support VB in the box.  This is after they already said the next version would.  So what's the point of stating the obvious on Connect only to have them again ignore it ?

And probably *MORE TO THE POINT*, ***WHY THE F SHOULD VB DEVELOPERS HAVE TO ASK TO HAVE WHAT SHOULD BE THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE***.  

That in itself is the bigotry, hence the FU awards .

# re: This month's Microsoft FU awards...

Sunday, November 25, 2007 9:14 AM by Robert

Are there any numbers for C# v VB.NET users?

I think it is terrible how C# gets all the glory and VB all the disgusted looks.

# re: This month's Microsoft FU awards...

Monday, November 26, 2007 1:03 AM by bill

There were some "loose" figures bashed around the other week. See :

msmvps.com/.../counting-deck-chairs-on-the-titanic.aspx