Google bans MVP

Google certainly sounds like it’s a nice place to work. Table football, free lunches, that whole “don’t be evil” mantra, and the requirement to spend 20% of your time on projects that aren’t specifically to do with any particular company goal (with the obvious intent that some of those projects will result in interesting discoveries and/or personal development that the company can use).

But I can’t say that I’ll be applying there, at least until they publicly state that they are permanently reversing a decision they made in the last few weeks.

What did Google do that was, to my mind, so very close to evil?

Google told Jon Skeet that he shouldn’t accept the Microsoft MVP Award that was offered to him, despite the fact that he’s been awarded for the sixth year in a row.

Remember, this is a retrospective award – it is a recognition of what you have done for the community of Microsoft’s users, not a request or obligation to do anything in the future or act in a particular way.

Jon’s award stems from his frequent, continued and voluntary assistance to other C# developers.

As far as I can tell, Google has not told Jon to stop helping C# developers, and certainly his blog is still up, his support pages and FAQs are still up, and he’s still posting helpful advice on C#.

I could even understand if they said “don’t go to the annual MVP Summit”, or “don’t advocate Microsoft products” (although that’s not expected of MVPs, who bristle at the slightest suggestion of being ‘evangelists’).

So, Google’s not angry with his behaviour – they are angry with his being recognised and rewarded, by Microsoft, for that helpful volunteer behaviour.

My own C# projects have benefitted on numerous occasions from finding an article Jon has posted on the Internet. I’d like to thank him for that, and I hope he isn’t required by Google to reject my gratitude as well.

Thanks, Jon Skeet, for all you do for the C# developer community.

Thanks, Google, for reminding us that there’s a line that divides “evil” from simply “really, really bad”.

[Note: Please feel free to pass this posting on. I’d like to see Google feel very very ashamed for this, and to recant. If only because Jon will be eligible every quarter for the MVP award, and he’s going to get awfully tired of refusing it over and over. News coverage would be great, but I don’t see any at the time of writing on Bing’s News search.]

Published Fri, Oct 2 2009 8:36 by Alun Jones

Comments

# [OPINION] Un MVP que no es más MVP por trabajar en la empresa del buscador (ahi te dejo para que lo pienses … )

Buenas, y yo que pensaba que estaba teniendo una semana dura, resulta que Jon Skeet ( si no has leido

Friday, October 02, 2009 12:33 PM by El Bruno

# [OPINION] Un MVP que no es más MVP por trabajar en la empresa del buscador (ahi te dejo para que lo pienses … )

Buenas, y yo que pensaba que estaba teniendo una semana dura, resulta que Jon Skeet ( si no has leido

Friday, October 02, 2009 12:33 PM by El Bruno

# re: Google bans MVP

This is so sad, Unless he was using company time to help the C# community, but even then, Google should only have monitored his activities at work.

Well I Guess Google might have her own reason(s) for doing that but i think Jon is working in a wrong place!

www.wilsonkutegeka.com

re: What's Google's objection?

The thing to remember is that this award is for past behaviour in volunteering to help the community of users of one or more Microsoft products.

Google absolutely have the right to tell their employees "from this point forwards, don't waste time on volunteerism", but it seems rather bizarre to tell your employees "we want you not to accept an award for your volunteer work to date".

Again, I'll emphasise that accepting the award does not require the MVP sign an NDA, and it does not require any further commitment from the MVP.

Saturday, October 3, 2009 9:27 PM by Alun Jones

Saturday, October 03, 2009 3:46 AM by Wilson Kutegeka

# re: Google bans MVP

Ohhh.. what can I say? after all it is Google :p

Saturday, October 03, 2009 9:29 PM by Bernard Cheah

# re: Google bans MVP

Alun, you wrote...

"Google absolutely have the right to tell their employees "from this point forwards, don't waste time on volunteerism"..."

Maybe in the US, but absolutely NOT in the UK!

Should Google follow through with that threat they will be wide open to an unfair dismissal claim in an industrial tribunal!

I find it hard to believe that any company operating in the UK would have the audacity to claim 'absolute right' to an employees spare time, let alone what awards they can accept in recognition of that 'volunteerism'.

I'm even more amazed that Google haven't thought of the potential negative press fallout should a quiet 'news day' occur and the main stream media latch onto this!

[Disclaimer: I have no legal background, this is my personal opinion.]

re: Good point...

That's a good point, perhaps - I have no legal training either, so it's possible that even in the US, Google shouldn't say "don't do volunteering on your own time supporting our competitor's (non-competing) products".

Of course, this is coloured by the fact that Jon works for Google in the UK.

A manager could be more subtle than I've suggested, saying things like "I notice your work has been suffering lately, has it crossed your mind that this could be because of your outside commitments?" - but it doesn't appear that anything so subtle happened here, simply a "hey, I wouldn't suggest accepting that award".

Monday, October 5, 2009 1:54 PM by Alun Jones

Monday, October 05, 2009 3:37 PM by Doddie

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